Notices tagged with matrix

@adfeno
> #Matrix with it's flagship currently-assumed-non-free #Riot

I think you're overstating your case here, to the point of misleading people. AFAIK Riot *itself* isn't non-free, it's desktop apps have a non-free dependency; #Electron. Actually Electron itself isn't non-free either, it also has a non-free dependency; #Chromium. Actually #Chromium itself isn't non-free either, it just has some dependencies whose license situation is unclear.

@deejoe

#Disroot.org have decided to shift the focus of their group chat platform from the #Riot web client and #Matrix server/ protocol, to an #XMPP web client and server.
https://disroot.org/en/blog/matrix-closure

@xj9 #Wire is ready for use by non-geeks *now*, on all major platforms (desktop, mobile, and web). Name a single federated chat system that has clients with the #UX polish of Wire across the same range of platforms, clients that can reliably support voice/video chat and file transfer. Clients you could realistically recommend to your Grandpa who lives in a cabin in the woods as a #Skype replacement. The hard truth is neither #XMPP nor #Matrix clients are ready for primetime.

@stevenroose This is concerning. However, there are better alternatives, like #matrix, #rocketchat and #mattermost. They all put *you* in control.

@clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion threads he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns?https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121

@clacke I agree with everything @sir says about #Signal, having come to pretty much the same conclusions reading most of the same old discussion thread he did. The only thing that makes my brow wrinkle is not suggesting #GNU #Ring along with #Matrix, and suggesting #Tox. Doesn't it have some unresolved security concerns?
https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121

@z428 @charlag @lightone there are people swimming against the tide trying to build social network web apps on XMPP (eg Movim), when I suspect it would be better to do the opposite, build chat apps for the web using #Matrix, #Zot, or #ActivityPup, and find ways to bridge between those and native XMPP apps

Hi Everyone! We have a nice early #TWIF for your weekend reading!

https://f-droid.org/2018/11/15/twif-30-publishing-applications-through-f-droid-gitlab-runners-and-pluggable-transports.html

Find out how to publish applications through F-Droid and read about Private GitLab runners, Pluggable Transports and our happily running F-Droid #Matrix server.

#30

Hi all. #TWIF #29 is up, in which we're looking for #MirrorTesters and talk about our new #Matrix server.

https://f-droid.org/en/2018/11/10/twif-29-new-matrix-server-and-mirror-testers-wanted.html

We also have some news about #Fairphone as a Service, seek help with our new #AuditingProxy, and 12 new and 79 updated apps in our repo. Go read!

So it sounds like #Riot is getting significantly more performant, at least on the web side of things.

I know some people have bashed #Matrix for its server performance and implementations, but I think with more optimizations and a fresh coat of paint, it could end up being really great.

@danyspin97 @ink_slinger I wouldn't make that recommendation until we actually see that @Purism messaging app, and whether the UX is suitable for mere mortals ;) But this is good news, as is the work the #GNOME is doing on their #Fractal client(s) for #Matrix (curious as to why they picked a Matrix over XMPP for a native app, since the point-of-difference of Matrix is being more web-native).

@KevinMarks @bhaugen @cwebber
chat.indieweb.org integrates with #IRC, #Matrix, or #Slack. Intriguing. Why Slack, and why not #XMPP (#MUC)?

@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux
> In the end #Matrix still seems the most promising one to me, due to the presence of both a public community and a IM.

#Matrix is client/server, so quite a different beast from #Tox / #Ring, which are serverless. Matrix seems like a good candidate for replacing both #IRC and #Slack, given that it's federated by default (unlike IRC which needs a bunch of extra stuff to support federation), and it's an open protocol (unlike Slack which is a #DataFarm).

One of the challenges for federating #FreeCode chat apps is the risk that doing so punches security holes in the privacy protecting #E2E #encryption they use. This is one of the reasons we have #XMPP competing with #Matrix, and both competing with walled gardens like #Wire and #Signal, even though both of these have liberated the code for both their clients and servers.

@tindall let them try #matrix. It has quit a few native and web based clients.

@wuhei @mayel
> the riot.im client has a good UI for non techies.

Yeah, people say that. But I've used #Riot, and I don't agree. It's certainly more user-friendly than most (all?) IRC clients as a #Slack-a-like, but pitching it as a replacement for Skype / FB Messenger is like pitching Mumble for that purpose. Just no. #Matrix, like #XMPP, might be a great protocol, but consistently smooth #UX is not there yet.