Notices tagged with matrix

@banjofox hmm. It's possible I'm failing to understand how Discord is used (having never used it). I was under the impression it's predominantly a text chat room system, like Slack or Riot. Are you saying it's more like a voice conference system? In which case, have you tried #Mumble? The voice chat in Riot uses a plugin to connect to a #JitsiMeet server hosted at #Matrix.org. It's pretty centralized. I'd love to see them implement the #Jami protocol for voice/ video chat instead.

@nurinoas that last one I think is key, because adoption is strongly shaped by #NetworkEffect Imagine if users of every #Jabber app, every #Matrix app, every standalone chat app like #Wire or #Signal, could chat with Jami users! Even #fediverse apps for that matter!
@teaneedz @AmarOk

@kaniini I can't help but notice these talking points coming up repeatedly, about the existing *public* #fediverse not protecting privacy. What part of public are people not getting? If folks want fully private federated messaging, they can use networks running #Diaspora, #Zot, #SSB, #XMPP with #OMEMO, or #Matrix with encryption turned on. #OStatus can't do private, and although #ActivityPub can, nobody has implemented it well yet, and its meaningless without encryption (#E2EE).
@hellpie

After having made the mistake to use #Riot on my work laptop, I am now shredding all the history logs and config.

#matrix #privacy

@imacrea if you're wanting to ensure the privacy of your comms, your only sure bet is not to use digitaI comms. AFAIK a letter in a taped envelope has about the same guarantee of privacy as even the best existing digital comms. The #E2EE in #Matrix is still in beta and turned off by default. With Matrix 1.0 frozen and #Synapse 1.0 released recently, encryption might be production ready in both servers and clients within the next year? I'm not holding my breath. (1/2)
@bortzmeyer

I'd really like to see a group of #Jabber champions take the #Riot source code and modify it to connect to servers using #XMPP, #MUC, and #OMEMO, instead of the #Matrix protocol. This would conclusively prove their constant claims that their preferred protocols can do everything Matrix can do. I would be curious to know what proportion of existing Jabber servers such a modified client could connect to without losing any functionality.
@bortzmeyer @imacrea

@bortzmeyer @imacrea
in theory, either protocol can be used for any kind of chat. But while the #Riot client is great for team chat, I haven't seen a #Matrix client with an instant messenger UI I would recommend for friends and family use. #Jabber (#XMPP) is the opposite. Apps like #Conversations (Android) and #Pidgin (desktop) are fine for one-to-one IM but I have yet to see a Jabber client that does group chat as well as Riot. This piece explains the differences well:
https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/05/16/banquets-and-barbecues/

@fitheach interesting. Maybe that's something to do with the room settings? I'm very new to using #Matrix. I'll ask the group if we want people to be able to look at our chat without joining the group. If anyone is keen to help us bridge the #VOICE room so folks can join in using #Jabber, #IRC, etc, please get in touch.

@fitheach interesting. Maybe that's something to do with the room settings? I'm very new to using #Matrix. If anyone is keen to help us bridge the #VOICE room so folks can join in using #Jabber, #IRC, etc, please get in touch.

Is matrix.org down or something?

#matrix

@xurizaemon
> yikes! ... how's that looking from where you are right now?

The devil is in the (implementation) details, of course. The Chinese government hasn't built a social network, it's done exactly what the #5Eyes governments have done, insisted on their own back doors in corporate ones like #WeChat and #Weibo. Contrast this with the French government (I think) funding a #Matrix app - #FreeCode and federated - which is more like what I was thinking of.
@lightweight @vik

@kaniini #Matrix ...