Multiple month-long or longer outages of the pub servers that are necessary if you’re not in the same LAN with other users means that the network is unreliable. There is zero chance that anyone I know in person would return after such long outages, so it is not ready.
Now, I suppose, if there were other SSB / #Manyverse users on my local network, we could make use of it that way. But there aren’t, and the network is pretty useless without pubs.
Scuttlebutt is a distributed socnet, but for most users, it is dependent on pub servers to do the connecting.
There was a similar document shared on Secure Scuttlebutt ( #SSB ) / #Manyverse a while ago. I believe I linked the document, so search my history if you wish to compare.
Frankly, I found the SSB document unworkable and error-prone, but this one sounds like it could work in some situations.
My impressions of iOS 14: irritating as f*ck. Every few hours (almost every time I unlock the screen), it asks me to enter my AppleID password. You know, that long and complex machine-generated string that is difficult to enter correctly on a mobile device? Yes, that one.
Oh, and I keep getting random permission screens popping up. No, I do not want to set your browser as the default. I'll set Firefox Focus as default, if I can. Otherwise, I'll leave it as Safari.
This is a Gen5 device, so it will likely go unsupported within a year from now. I may just wipe it and ship it to #sonTwo, so they have something that #GS3 can play with. I have an old Samsung Galaxy tablet that I was already planning to send.
(Funny story: he got ahold of his mother's newer iPad and pushed so many random buttons that she couldn't even log in to back it up. She had to completely wipe it, losing some data in the process.)
We agree that children spend too much time with electronics, but the problem is that even if you don't intend for him to spend time with electronics, he's automatically drawn to them. He discovered grandpa's watch the first day I was there, and if it lit up or made the slightest sound, he came running.
Another issue, which I've observed before. #Manyverse #iOS doesn't respond quickly to user input, so it often seems frozen. I tend to click 3-4 times before I remember to wait for it to respond.
At present, I think most implementations are based on Node.js.
An important thing in SSB is "Pubs". The link above says this:
> "Pubs" are bot-users that have public IPs. They follow users and rehost the messages to other peers, ensuring good uptime and no firewall blockage.
> Pubs have no special privileges, and are not trusted by users. However, because Scuttlebot has no DHT or NAT-traversal utilities, users must "join" a Pub to distribute their messages on the WAN.
Without a lot of active experience with SSB or its clients, it seems that pubs are a weak point and a centralizing influence. Sure, I could host a pub myself, but then I'd need to attract a good sized fraction of the overall SSB userbase, so that those connecting to my pub could find interesting users.
Copying a 'pub' invite and pasting it into the client is not easy. It took several tries on the Apple iPad, and was only possible by learning to trick the text selection function. On Android, there are some characters in the pub invite that can only be selected if you select all (grabs way more than what you want, leaving you to edit after pasting). I eventually resorted to copying the portion that selected easily, and manually entering the rest.
Each device / installation gets its own individual identity hash. In your profile, you can attach a friendly name, which is displayed to others instead of the full identity hash. Don't try restoring a hash from one device onto another, because the #Secure_Scuttlebutt network seems to deliver everything to the first device and leave the second one alone.
There seems to be a smallish set of users, many of whom are building SSB software, hosting pubs, and building similar #peer-to-peer ( #p2p ) networks.
I am nowhere near an expert with it, and I generally only open the client about once per week. It usually takes a while to update, so at first, the old posts from a week before are all you see.
@santiago#Manyverse is fairly new and probably still quite experimental. If you want to give Scuttlebutt a fair trial, maybe try #Patchwork on the desktop? @xj9
@hoergen you can send and receive pics/ vids of cats (or anything else) on #Scuttlebutt, you just don't have to store them long term. I haven't tested #Manyverse yet (it doesn't seem to be available for Android 4.4.4 or older), but I assume you can set it to only keep recent posts, up to a given storage limit. Then you can use a desktop client (or run a pub on a VPS) to store a larger volume of post data for posterity or to help with distribution. @staltz@Hamiller@manyver_se@switchingsocial
@dazinism so #Briar is quite different from #Jami, which AFAICT can only do realtime chat, no delayed delivery of messages. I'm curious now to try Briar and also Serval. I still don't have a new enough version of #Android to run #Manyverse (SSB client for mobile) @k3b@tootbrute