Notices tagged with jami
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LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 22-Aug-2021 18:09:44 UTC 
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
@geniusmusing @lxo This is important. #GNU #Jami used to only send when both parties were online simultaneously. If the parties in the conversation are in different timezones, that may not happen often.
Users reasonably want end-to-end encryption (E2EE), but still want some basic usability.
(The experience back in the GNU #Ring days was pretty bad. Even today, none of my contacts will reconsider it.) -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 28-Jan-2021 18:13:51 UTC
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
Likewise, I’ve pretty much abandoned #Jami (or #Ring, if you used it previously) because all my contacts dumped it years back when an update forced everyone to re-add their contacts. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 06-Nov-2020 18:42:32 UTC
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
So ... about GNU #Jami ... when I tried it, there were lots of annoyances that made it not ready for prime time. Has anyone looked at it recently? -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Oct-2020 18:19:27 UTC
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
In any case, the pub outage tells me that #SSB, in its current design, is unsuitable for connecting regular people together.
Maybe I'll look at #Jami again to see whether it's made progress toward fixing its issues.
Or #Tox, or #Briar. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 05-Oct-2020 00:33:27 UTC
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
Okay look. *I* don't use #Signal ( and same for #Telegram ), because I don't want to give my telephone number to anyone except family and close friends. I have enough personal contacts that do use them so that they'd be personally useful if I didn't have that unbreakable obstacle.
But I don't object to others choosing such end-to-end encrypted messengers over messaging apps such as (for example) #Facebook_Messenger.
I personally use #Wire, #XMPP, #Matrix, and #WickrMe. (I tried #Jami, but it wasn't very usable yet; none of my contacts were willing to try #Tox or #Briar.) I've even considered getting a Google account again so I can use whatever their latest incarnation of messaging is (just because almost everyone I know has a Google account).
It does bother me that Signal and Telegram and most other messaging services are centralized and non-federated.
It seems we haven't learned from the 1990s & early 2000s when some friends had AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), some had MSN Messenger, some had Yahoo Messenger, some had ICQ, and a few had various other walled garden messengers (such as Excite's messenger). If I wanted to talk with all my friends, I needed to have accounts on every possible service. I should be able to communicate with my friends from whatever service I choose to use to whatever services they choose to use and not have to create accounts on every possible service.
But that's a matter of educating our friends and family, not of dogmatically refusing to communicate with them on any service they might use. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 27-Sep-2020 02:33:03 UTC
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
Related: https://jami.net/why-is-jami-truly-distributed — an explanation of some of #Jami’s network architecture. -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 27-Sep-2020 02:28:33 UTC
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
Wondering if #Jami is usable yet? I tried it a few years ago, and it wasn’t. Plus, it updated and forced me to reconnect to my contacts ... all of whom abandoned it when that happened. -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Friday, 03-Apr-2020 12:13:13 UTC 
Strypey
@onymous have you tried #Jami, a P2P app for text/ voice/ video chat? It's more like social networking than social media.
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Friday, 03-Apr-2020 12:03:38 UTC
Strypey
@hambibleibt the biggest problem with #Tox from a #UX POV is the fragmentation across OS platforms. Apps for some OS have group chat, while others don't. Anyone could develop an app compatible with the protocol set #Jami uses, but the dev team has an app for each major OS, and features roll out across all of them at the same time. Jami also seems to progress steadily, while Tox dev seems to have been in hibernation for some time.
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Friday, 03-Apr-2020 08:29:12 UTC
Strypey
I've been testing #Jami again after a number of software updates. Text chat performance has improved markedly. It's delivering each message quickly, and in order. Users can now send both voice messages and video messages, which is great for doing voice/ video chat on patchy network connection. Now I'm excited for the group text chat feature to ship!
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Friday, 03-Apr-2020 03:58:09 UTC
Strypey
Have you looked at #BigBlueButton and the #Greenlight front end? If you don't want the hassle of running a server, #Jami is pretty good for voice calls, probably video too. Ironically their text chat is the bit that needs work.
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 02-Apr-2020 03:53:47 UTC
Strypey
@rek2 you left out #Jami, which has a much more consistent #UX across platforms than #Tox (eg none of the Tox mobile apps I've tried support group chat). You also left out #BigBlueButton, which I keep hearing is much less of a resource hog on the server-side than #JitsiMeet, and I can confirm JM is a massive resource hog on the client-side. I haven't used #Discord but I've heard #Riot (#Matrix client) is a pretty good substitute?
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Mar-2020 00:18:32 UTC
Strypey
#ShowerThoughts I wonder if Scuttlebutt could use a #blockchain to map its gibberish user IDs ("public keys") to human-readable usersnames, like #Jami does?
https://jami.net/why-is-jami-truly-distributed/ -
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 23-Mar-2020 18:23:53 UTC
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
Experience with #Jami's ancestor #Ring tells me that it needs a fairly technical user who is willing to tolerate some annoying deficiencies. My contacts have all dropped it, including one son who is a network engineer.
Be careful about promoting it to people who are not willing to endure those things, or we can chase people away from all non-Facebook communications software. -
Joseph Nuthalapati :fbx: (njoseph@social.masto.host@social.masto.host)'s status on Monday, 23-Mar-2020 03:53:13 UTC 
Joseph Nuthalapati :fbx:
Jitsi is getting a lot of mentions here.
I wonder if people are aware of GNU Jami, a P2P solution.
https://jami.net/Jami has end-to-end encryption while Jitsi is only encrypted during transit. The Jitsi server has your packets available in unencrypted form. If you can't trust a Jitsi server and need end-to-end encryption, Jami can be a good alternative.
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 09-Mar-2020 05:16:14 UTC
Strypey
@mark certainly can be done. After all the #Session folks forked the #Signal apps and rebuilt them to run on the #Loki #blockchain. I'd love to see someone do the same using #Matrix instead of Loki. Not sure how they'd do the voice/video chat, maybe using #Jami protocols? Session doesn't have realtime voice/video anyway.
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2020 04:00:37 UTC
Strypey
This post on the #Jami blog highlights some of the ways users have to manage #P2P apps differently from those that depend on servers:
https://jami.net/the-jami-quirks/ -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Feb-2020 22:48:32 UTC
Strypey
Help the #Jami team choose the new default #ringtone for their #P2P chat app:
https://framaforms.org/help-us-choose-jamis-default-ringtone-1565722509 -
Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2020 00:16:48 UTC
Strypey
@ajeremias My understanding is that Hubzilla is more like a federated CMS (eg Wordpress or Drupal) than a social media tool. SSB, unlike the fediverse apps, is totally distributed (P2P). Like #Briar or #Jami.
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Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2020 10:10:04 UTC
Strypey
@clacke I've suggested before that delta.chat could implement the P2P voice chat protocol developed by #Jami, which would increase the #NetworkEffect of both apps. It seems to work pretty well despite requiring no servers.
https://write.as/c7fda5x13qzve.md
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