Notices tagged with chromium

@rain there are free code forks of #Firefox, like #ABrowser and it's not too hard to maintain them. I'm not aware of a single fully libre fork of #Chrome. #Chromium and all the forks I know of have freedom issues.

AFAICT the core criticism of #Electron (aside for the minor #SoftwareFreedom issues it inherits from its dependence on #Chromium) is this:

"Do they build square airplanes so they don’t have to learn about aerodynamics, then just throw on an extra ten engines to make up for it? NO!"
@sir , 'Electron Considered Harmful'
https://drewdevault.com/2016/11/24/Electron-considered-harmful.html

@adfeno
> #Matrix with it's flagship currently-assumed-non-free #Riot

I think you're overstating your case here, to the point of misleading people. AFAIK Riot *itself* isn't non-free, it's desktop apps have a non-free dependency; #Electron. Actually Electron itself isn't non-free either, it also has a non-free dependency; #Chromium. Actually #Chromium itself isn't non-free either, it just has some dependencies whose license situation is unclear.

@deejoe

@jcbrand not in my OS, or any OS that follows the Free System Distribution Guidelines #FSDG, because of it's dependencies on #Chromium
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#chromium-browser
@shura @z428

@jcbrand have you looked into #Ionic? It does essentially the same thing, but without bundling most of a #Chromium browser with your app. I was introduced to it at the recent #Coopathon in Hong Kong. The team I was part of used Ionic (with a #Horizon back-end) to build an MVP for a cross-platform app for use by foodbanks, in 48 hours.
https://ionicframework.com/
@shura @z428

@hexmasteen @HerraBRE @alexl @Blort
Most #Chromium based software can't even be confirmed as #FreeCode software to the standard required for being listed in the #FreeSoftwareDirectory. AFAIK #Iridium is the only project accepted into the #FSD that uses code from Chromium:
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Iridium_Browser

Shared library load order randomization, a cool feature in #HardenedBSD, works perfectly with #Firefox, #Chromium, and #Iridium.

Shared library load order randomization is a second protection against the offset2lib attack, the first being multiple ASLR deltas.

So, I extracted a copy of Respondus LockDownBrowser. It has a remarkable similarity to your regular #electron package with many #chromium files.

TIL Google's #Chromium open source web browser, the core of the proprietary Chrome browser, contains more lines of code than #FreeBSD world+kernel.

@gme 1) none of the frameworks you mention result in apps that contain a complete copy of a browser (#Chromium, see that link). 2) Chromium has never been confirmed not to contain proprietary dependencies, which may also be bundled with #Electron apps, see https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#chromium-browser

@cathal @Tryphon even #Chromium can be guaranteed to be 100% free code. That's why neither it nor anyone derived from it (#Electron apps, #Discourse etc) are listed in the #FreeSoftwareDirectory
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#chromium-browser

I don't see a way to "Create shortcuts" on a web app extension in Chrome but Chromium still has that option. Chromium is 1 version number down. I wonder if the "Create shortcuts" will be removed from Chromium too.

Chromium Version 65.0.3325.181 (Official Build) Built on Ubuntu , running on Ubuntu 18.04 (64-bit)

Chrome Version 66.0.3359.139 (Official Build) (64-bit)

#linux #chrome #chromium #ubuntu #mate