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Notices tagged with blockwars

  1. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 05-Feb-2021 00:51:30 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    I think #Blockwars (and its #Fediblock subsidiary) is a negative thing for the network.

    I want these sites to give individual users much more control over their own interactions, so that instance admins can concentrate on protecting against things which could violate laws or ToS. Someone uses racist, sexist, right-wing / left-wing negative stereotypes? Block them yourself.

    Years ago, Pownce had a feature where you couldn’t just subscribe/follow someone unless it was mutual. I think Friendica had that at one time, but AFAIR, that was removed in order to federate better with StatusNet and Diaspora. Pownce was acquired and shut down, but we haven’t seen a lot of networks (federated or centralized) pick up their secret sauce and build a better burger with it.
    In conversation about 2 months ago from Shoyu permalink
  2. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jan-2021 21:34:32 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • GeniusMusing
    @geniusmusing Yeah. :-(

    I think the #blockwars folks may have indirectly caused this. There are people who file complaints against client apps that don’t build in blocklists against specific servers whose moderation policies they dislike.

    I think that #Matrix / #Element competes with one or more Google-owned chat-type services. Since they gatekeep the overwhelming majority of Android users’ software installation, a good antitrust lawyer would be helpful. I’ll bet that faxing a bunch of documents to #USDOJ and various states would suddenly cause Google to decide that Element doesn’t violate their policies anyway.

    (Someone said it was “Boomers at Google that don’t understand federation”, but first of all, I’m certain that most GOOG employees are far younger than you and I, and secondly, I’m sure someone at Google understands federation, though they obviously dislike not being in control. Google Talk was federated with #XMPP, while Google Plus was basically #Diaspora with federation stripped out.)
    In conversation about 3 months ago from Shoyu permalink
  3. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Nov-2020 17:13:32 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    See, for example, #fediblock on an AP-enabled instance. In fact, the whole #blockwars thing is really fascistic.
    In conversation about 5 months ago from mustard permalink
  4. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 07-Sep-2020 23:49:58 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    It is hard to believe #blockwars is still a thing. Why not stay on Twitter if you're coming to the Fediverse looking to build lists of instances to block?
    In conversation about 7 months ago from mustard permalink
  5. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2019 02:52:12 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • SAINC
    @1iceloops123 Not just Niu people are sad. Leo's gotten a bad rap by the blockers almost from the beginning, so it isn't a surprise. #Blockwars
    In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2019 02:52:12 UTC from AndStatus permalink
  6. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 17-Aug-2018 00:47:23 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • delores
    @delores (1) Because it makes the site's users dependent and helpless, despite having moderation controls available (they won't learn to use them, because someone else does the work); (2) Because it gives the site's admins (already rulers of their site) even more power over their users; (3) Because we already know how useless "somebody else's opinion" of whom to block is. That's the biggest lesson of #blockwars; and (4) Because the admin's blocks may keep the site's users from seeing posts by people they would otherwise enjoy communicating with.

    Site-wide blocklists are unfortunately sometimes necessary, but in the overwhelming majority of cases, individual blocking and filtering is a better and more effective option.
    In conversation Friday, 17-Aug-2018 00:47:23 UTC from web permalink
  7. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Jun-2018 00:12:12 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • delores
    @delores If the purchase leads to work on federating users & issues between repo hosts, then you won't have to care about that. An account on one interacts with any others (modulo blocklists, don't think you've escaped #blockwars).
    In conversation Tuesday, 05-Jun-2018 00:12:12 UTC from Choqok permalink
  8. Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1) (lnxw37b1@plateia.org)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 05:10:39 UTC Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1) Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1)
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    • Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1)
    • Hobbit Habit
    @hobbithabit
    #WrongThink: wrongthink.net was once a GNU Social instance, but they replaced that with a home-grown non-federated site long ago. If you've seen them on some blocklist, that's just because those lists are poorly-researched at best. ( #BlockWars is the usual context in which wrongthink is raised. )

    #postActiv protocols: As I understand it, #OStatus. #Diaspora is under development. Implementing #ActivityPub is a way off.
    In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2018 05:10:39 UTC from plateia.org permalink
  9. Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1) (lnxw37b1@plateia.org)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2018 05:09:49 UTC Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1) Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1)
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    @hobbithabit@mastodon.host 
    #WrongThink: wrongthink.net was once a GNU Social instance, but they replaced that with a home-grown non-federated site long ago. If you've seen them on some blocklist, that's just because those lists are poorly-researched at best. ( #BlockWars is the usual context in which wrongthink is raised. )

    #postActiv protocols: As I understand it, #OStatus. #Diaspora is under development. Implementing #ActivityPub is a way off. 

    .
    In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2018 05:09:49 UTC from plateia.org permalink
  10. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2017 17:24:55 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Rysiekúr Memesson
    @rysiek Could be some configuration error, or maybe cloud's code is older. Or maybe more #blockwars.
    In conversation Wednesday, 20-Dec-2017 17:24:55 UTC from AndStatus permalink
  11. 🇩 🇪 🇼 🇴 🇴 〰️ (dwmatiz@sealion.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2017 18:10:57 UTC 🇩 🇪 🇼 🇴 🇴 〰️ 🇩 🇪 🇼 🇴 🇴 〰️
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    • Bryan Lunduke
    @bryanlunduke #Blockwars. Instance admins block each other's servers left and right over the slightest disagreements.
    In conversation Sunday, 10-Dec-2017 18:10:57 UTC from sealion.club permalink
  12. Zordon (Linux Walt) (zordon@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2017 15:14:35 UTC Zordon (Linux Walt) Zordon (Linux Walt)
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    • Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)

    @kaniini

    -- "... much more secure ActivityPub."

    Security between #OStatus and #ActivityPub is exactly the same. If that's the sole advantage you're looking for, you'll be soundly disappointed on an AP-only network.

    As for the #blockwars problem that Roy @schestowitz mentioned, the only possible solutions are (1) to put better blocking and filtering tools in the hands of the users instead of concentrating more power into admins' hands; and (2) smaller instances instead of larger ones.

    In conversation Saturday, 02-Dec-2017 15:14:35 UTC from mastodon.social permalink
  13. 🇩 🇪 🇼 🇴 🇴 〰️ (dwmatiz@sealion.club)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2017 21:01:13 UTC 🇩 🇪 🇼 🇴 🇴 〰️ 🇩 🇪 🇼 🇴 🇴 〰️
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    • Hyper-Cole
    @hyper the #blockwars never end
    In conversation Friday, 24-Nov-2017 21:01:13 UTC from sealion.club permalink
  14. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2017 13:38:55 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Christmas Personified as a Catgirl
    • sulman
    • Pete Zaitcev
    @sulman @moonman @zaitcev See https://is.gd/3DJmhr and https://is.gd/6ORpgi and you'll know why he won't launch his own instance. (In a word, #blockwars.)
    In conversation Friday, 24-Nov-2017 13:38:55 UTC from Choqok permalink
  15. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2017 00:58:57 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Annah
    • vegos
    • awg
    @awg @veg05 @maiyannah It is unfortunate that Roy Schestowitz was part of an instance that actively participates in #blockwars and its ban lists.

    I've seen his posts all over for years. He's opinionated (relatively leftish) and prolific. But I've never known him to post something that deserves closing of his account.
    In conversation Friday, 24-Nov-2017 00:58:57 UTC from web permalink
  16. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2017 06:12:48 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Danyl Strype
    • RandomASCII
    @strypey Modulo #blockwars. If your instance is blocked by the admin of the other instance, the statement will not be true. But otherwise, you are correct. CC: @randomascii
    In conversation Monday, 30-Oct-2017 06:12:48 UTC from web permalink
  17. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 13-Aug-2017 01:09:33 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • maiki
    I get the impression that $USER's contacts over on masto.soc did not know that they could no longer receive $USER's notices. #Blockwars continues to stir up messes long after most people have lost their taste for the topic.

    The solution is simple: keep accounts on a couple of instances with different admins and different moderation policies, so you don't unknowingly lose contact with your contacts. Even better if you can self-host one of those accounts.
    In conversation Sunday, 13-Aug-2017 01:09:33 UTC from web permalink

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