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Notices tagged with bifurcation

  1. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2019 21:48:35 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Internet Turtle 🏴
    @tealturtle I knew of some people from West Africa (but none from Southern or Central Africa) years ago, before the #bifurcation.
    .
    I think they were #lost to the #corpocentric networks when Identica switched to #Pump.io and many #StatusNet instances closed.
    In conversation about a year ago from AndStatus permalink
  2. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jul-2019 02:29:59 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    I wouldn't say https://identi.ca/ is "dead", it just is not accepting new members and suffers frequent downtime. Without the #Pump.io firehose, it is difficult to tell how many active users are on the Pump network (though certainly a lot less than in the months after #bifurcation).
    In conversation Wednesday, 24-Jul-2019 02:29:59 UTC from web permalink
  3. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2019 13:07:36 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Sorokin Alexei
    • Colegota El Villano
    • Diogo Cordeiro
    • aab
    • DalmeGNU
    @aab @diogo @dalme @colegota @xrevan86 I agree. We survived network #bifurcation once, we can do it again.
    In conversation Monday, 08-Jul-2019 13:07:36 UTC from AndStatus permalink
  4. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 30-Dec-2018 15:44:40 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Michael Vogel
    • Eugen
    • التنينوكس
    @dragnucs I disagree. Once your federated network survives one severe #bifurcation (the #Pump.io split), you know it can survive others. The #ActivityPub addition is still somewhere in the process, but I doubt that defederating from the #OStstus part of the network would speed it up.
    @gargron
    @heluecht
    In conversation Sunday, 30-Dec-2018 15:44:40 UTC from AndStatus permalink
  5. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jan-2018 23:20:12 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    I just thought of something: no one in the current #fediverse has seen me in person, though two people who were #lost in the #bifurcation (and Dr Jon Kulp, who left our network more recently) have seen me in person at least once.
    In conversation Sunday, 28-Jan-2018 23:20:12 UTC from web permalink
  6. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2018 04:31:12 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Stephen Michael Kellat
    • Hallå Kitteh
    @alpacaherder @clacke It mostly stayed full of cool people until the #bifurcation, when some stayed in the #fediverse, some went to the #pumpiverse, and many were #lost to the #corpocentric networks.
    In conversation Wednesday, 03-Jan-2018 04:31:12 UTC from web permalink
  7. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 20:21:18 UTC Bob Jonkman Bob Jonkman
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    • GNU Social
    • Annah
    To be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #StatusNet customers). Evan developed #PumpIO to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #bifurcation did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !GNUsocial instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #GNUsocial and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIO
    In conversation Sunday, 19-Nov-2017 20:21:18 UTC from gs.jonkman.ca permalink
  8. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2017 01:37:40 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    in reply to
    • Hallå Kitteh
    @clacke True. It hasn't been updated for the post #bifurcation fediverse, where larger character limits are the norm instead of the exception (and where some instances use #Markdown or #Textile to enable formatted posts).
    In conversation Sunday, 10-Sep-2017 01:37:40 UTC from Choqok permalink
  9. Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1) (lnxw37b1@plateia.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:03:45 UTC Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1) Linux Walt (@lnxw37b1)
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    My explanation of the #bifurcation, whereby half the #fediverse was split off into the pump.io #pumpiverse and unable to communicate with the remaining users. https://nu.federati.net/notice/513186
    In conversation Saturday, 09-Sep-2017 21:03:45 UTC from plateia.org permalink
  10. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2017 04:19:12 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • INACTIVE
    • Christopher Lemmer Webber
    • Craig Maloney ☕
    @craigmaloney @cwebber @deadsuperhero etc

    It's also important to note how committed Evan was to Identi.ca, StatusNet (and the Status.Net service), and finally Pump.io. He kept things going even after there was no revenue, then switched to cheaper-to-operate software and opened a couple of dozen Pump instances and related sites (ofirehose, open farm game, at least one uni-directional bridge site).

    I hate many of the effects of the #bifurcation, but I think it helped awaken people to the need to disperse among many instances. That was really needed when almost everyone was clustered on Identica.
    In conversation Tuesday, 04-Jul-2017 04:19:12 UTC from web permalink
  11. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jul-2017 04:04:29 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Windigo ☴
    @windigo Thanks for running #fragdev and for taking in #identica refugees during the #bifurcation.
    In conversation Saturday, 01-Jul-2017 04:04:29 UTC from web permalink
  12. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2017 02:31:09 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Douglas A. Whitfield
    @musicman I suspect many will be #lost to the #lockiverse, they way many others were during the #bifurcation. (Wondering whether the !lost group was on now-defunct oracle.skilledtests.com.)
    In conversation Tuesday, 13-Jun-2017 02:31:09 UTC from web permalink
  13. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2017 12:49:55 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Temporary Marjolein
    • Beni Grind
    • Danyl Strype
    @notnavigium @strypey I have two possible sources for the name: @mk or @jpope. It could have been around the #bifurcation (when #Identica switched to #pump.io, splitting one network into two) or even earlier, around the time of the StatusNet 1.0/1.0.1 upgrade, when identica was offline for multiple days and many of us launched our first self-hosted instances.
    In conversation Sunday, 04-Jun-2017 12:49:55 UTC from web permalink
  14. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2017 17:15:22 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • nds
    @nds The other side of this is that removing ads from #Identi.ca and other SN sites helped lead to the #bifurcation of one federated network into two incompatible federated networks.

    One of the main drivers was the cost of operating Identi.ca with no corresponding revenue.
    In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2017 17:15:22 UTC from web permalink
  15. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 17:52:12 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Alex Enkerli
    @enkerli Yes, there were many users #lost to both the #fediverse and the #pumpiverse when one network split into two. ActivityPub offers some potential to undo some of the #bifurcation's damage.

    For example, it may help revitalize the nearly-moribund Pump.io network when GS and Mastodon and Diaspora can all interact seamlessly.
    In conversation Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 17:52:12 UTC from web permalink
  16. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 06-Apr-2017 16:29:50 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    in reply to
    • Hallå Kitteh
    I would say it partially worked. Identica started with such a huge number of users that I doubt any other instance is even close. When the #bifurcation happened, many people stopped using their early pump.io accounts and went back to ica. But the imbalance can't get worse because no registrations allowed there.
    In conversation Thursday, 06-Apr-2017 16:29:50 UTC from web permalink
  17. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2017 02:05:29 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • reality karen teaduck III
    #lost in the #bifurcation

    I'd like to see some of those people return to the fediverse.
    In conversation Monday, 06-Mar-2017 02:05:29 UTC from web permalink
  18. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2017 20:10:32 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    • Doug Whitfield Loadaverage
    @dawsports When the #bifurcation was announced, I tried to close my accounts on some numbered SN instances. That same "User deletion in progress..." message remained there until the sites were shut down. I never knew why. ( Possibly #database issue? )
    In conversation Sunday, 05-Mar-2017 20:10:32 UTC from web permalink
  19. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2017 05:03:51 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
    in reply to
    • Markov Dosto(y)evsky
    @question Do you have a list of the 421 lost souls at the #bifurcation?
    In conversation Sunday, 05-Mar-2017 05:03:51 UTC from web permalink
  20. Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 03:19:31 UTC Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]
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    • Klaus Jónsson Zimmermann
    @kzimmermann When the #bifurcation happened, some people took the Pump road, while others stayed on what became the GNU Social / OStatus road. I've tried to stay connected to both worlds and the people in them. However, there are frequent and long-term (as in weeks or even months long) outages on most public #Pump.IO instances, so I'm not even sure which of my contacts still use it. (Evan's planned turning instances over to others to run could be a partial remedy, but he's been too busy to move forward with that.)
    In conversation Thursday, 02-Mar-2017 03:19:31 UTC from web permalink
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