Notices tagged with activitypub

LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 29-Dec-2022 02:20:57 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a

#Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article.

"Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight"

> Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal.

No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter.

And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it.

> I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely!

Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use.

> But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story.

Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance.

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1. Mastodon Brought a Protocol to a Product Fight
  
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  Mastodon vs. Twitter? Come on…
Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Nov-2022 17:12:46 UTC Bob Jonkman
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- a Claes unto himself 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛
@clacke Our #KWNPSA user group chatted with the #GetTogether developer a few months ago. He said demand for self-hosted G2G instances was minimal, and event interchange even more minimal. So #ActivityPub support on G2G has stalled, and he considers G2G more or less stable and mature.

In conversation about 2 months ago from gs.jonkman.ca permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 27-Nov-2022 17:55:07 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
- XMPP
Libervia / Salut a Toi project is working on a protocol bridge, so that !xmpp based #socnets and #ActivityPub + #HTTP based social networks can interact.

See https://goffi.org/_ap/item/goffi%40goffi.org/libervia-progress-note-2022-w45-MTdL

In conversation about 2 months ago from web permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 14-Nov-2022 20:23:02 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

#Pjuu ( #OtterSite ) starts planning a rewrite that adds #federation ( probably only #ActivityPub ). Looking to become an alternative to #Mastodon and #Pleroma, while still joining the #Fediverse.

https://pjuu.com/joe/5b0383de620211edba040242ac140002 [pjuu com]
In conversation about 2 months ago from Shoyu permalink
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1. Post - Joe - Pjuu
  
  An open source social thing!
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 01:33:57 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

https://nu.federati.net/url/288425 [ar al]

Aral Balkan explains why the current designs of #Mastodon and #ActivityPub promote centralization.
In conversation about 3 months ago from mustard permalink
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1. Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)
  
  Every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. What does this say about the design of Mastodon and ActivityPub and the future of the fediverse?
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 04:26:23 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
- simsa04
I actually think that the overwhelming majority of blocking should be done by individuals curating their own timelines. I am sensitive to the effect on the Fediverse as a whole, especially as we've already been through this.

Even the original #bifurcation (when the largest instance at the time, Identica, severed communication with #StatusNet / #GNUsocial & #OStatus and switched to the #Pump.io protocol and software) and the subsequent #ActivityPub - #OStatus split have caused untold breakage. I've seen AP-side devs, admins, users patting themselves on the back while commiserating about brokenness that is built into the protocol itself or at least its common implementations.

I have also seen people telling other people to create "alts" on various instances, so that their posts can reach all of their intended contacts. Not for resilience against instance shutdowns or separating by posts and recipients by topics and interests (which is what groups and Diaspora style Aspects / GPlus style Circles are for), but because #blockwars prevents posts and members from one instance to be seen on certain others.

For the record, I think that instance governance is something that Mastodon should include in its instances.social instance-picker, along with instances' topical foci. People should have a way to see what they're agreeing to (and what the alternatives are) before the sign up.

In other words, it isn't my way or the highway so much as it is making it possible to know what one is getting into. I am certain that there are (or were) instances with democratically chosen rules. I also believe that we're not doing the people who use an instance any favor by not making it possible for them to contribute to the financing and administration of the instance. If you're paying all the costs and doing all the work to maintain and moderate the instance, it is difficult to let an election institute a policy that you disagree with. (I've started to really disagree with the idea of individuals hosting public instances wholly out of their own financial and time resources. Besides the "truck factor", it is much easier to keep an instance going if everything was already handled by a team and at least partly member supported.)

On the other hand, if the instance encourages those in its membership who can do so to participate in keeping it going, then it is perfectly reasonable to expect the admin team to carry out the decisions voted by the membership. I do realize that not everyone can contribute funds, nor can everyone do the technical labor ... but as @simsa04 will remember, things like writing documentation, contributing in discussions about improving the software, designing and implementing themes, and even marketing-type tasks such as creating a logo and a favicon or promoting the instance to people outside the #Fediverse are beneficial.

In conversation about 3 months ago from web permalink
dansup (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 07-May-2022 12:52:52 UTC dansup
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I've been pretty vocal about using my following and resources to help spread awareness of new projects and developers, I know what it's like to start from nothing and "compete" with mastodon, peertube, pleroma, etc.
What I don't get is how distant projects are from each other, I think the larger projects should make more of an effort to help out smaller projects.
We are not competing with each other, we're all in this together! 💪 #fediverse #activitypub

In conversation about 9 months ago from mastodon.social permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Apr-2022 23:11:54 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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- LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
It would be nice to have a big chunk of the people who are using #corpocentric #socnets like #Twitter and #Facebook and #Instagram move some or all of their presence over to the #OStatus and #ActivityPub branches of the #Fediverse, but I'd much rather they come because they want to try something different instead of coming because they are fleeing some change or impending change over there.

Why? Because these networks will never give them everything that those did. I personally believe that these networks can give some benefits that those cannot, but thus far, we've mostly tried to replicate their functionality ... without the benefit of nearly unlimited VC cash and a centralized model which puts $CentralizedNetwork at the center of its users' communications, where benefits built upon centralized knowledge of users' actions / choices / contacts.

Therefore, in 2-3 weeks, I expect 9 out of 10 new users to have have returned to Twitter ... or to some centralized network that springs up to duplicate Twitter without the Musk factor.

This has happened before. Maybe not on this scale, but it has happened. Multiple times. And always, most of them leave.

In conversation about 9 months ago from web permalink
Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-2021 04:59:13 UTC Bob Jonkman
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- Alexandre Oliva
Some days I'm glad my instance of #GNUsocial doesn't support #ActivityPub and isolates me from the idiocy on Mastodon of which I already get plenty from #Birdsite.

In conversation about a year ago from gs.jonkman.ca permalink
Aaron Gibson (afrogeek@squeet.me)'s status on Monday, 30-Aug-2021 19:11:02 UTC Aaron Gibson
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♲ @celia@fosstodon.org: New blog post: I wish the #fediverse had ‘circles’.

rusingh.com/2021/08/30/fediver…

#GooglePlus #twitter #google #mastodon #ActivityPub #moa #100DaysToOffload

In conversation Monday, 30-Aug-2021 19:11:02 UTC from squeet.me permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 02-Jul-2021 22:17:15 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

#Owncast is working on #ActivityPub support and some degree of interoperability with #PeerTube.

I'd like to throw up experimental instances of both.

In conversation Friday, 02-Jul-2021 22:17:15 UTC from mustard permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Jun-2021 01:46:28 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
- Federati Networks
https://poa.st/objects/6114d233-c662-4c1f-8192-c0d7691fbf1e

At the time when NuFN becomes #ActivityPub capable, there will be some instance blocks instituted. I'll publish a list, but at the very least, it will include:
* poa.st
* anime.website
* nnia.space

I'll write up a list of criteria for blocking, most of which will apply to every !fnetworks instance, and a TOS/TOU document soon.

In conversation Wednesday, 30-Jun-2021 01:46:28 UTC from web permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jun-2021 01:08:25 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

https://github.com/gobengo/distbin

An #ActivityPub compatible #pastebin. Seems to be abandoned. I wonder how well it worked.
In conversation Sunday, 06-Jun-2021 01:08:25 UTC from mustard permalink
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1. gobengo/distbin
  
  distributed social pastebin using Activitypub. Contribute to gobengo/distbin development by creating an account on GitHub.
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 04-Jun-2021 22:53:47 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
- Federati Networks
This instance is not yet #ActivityPub compatible, but I'm announcing in advance that we will begin blocking any instance which hosts potentially illegal material in line with https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html

As far as I know, we do not have any remaining #OStatus compatible instances which allow such things, but if one shows up it will be blocked.

!fnetworks
In conversation Friday, 04-Jun-2021 22:53:47 UTC from web permalink
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1. On the Loli Question — FSE Blog
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 10-May-2021 23:00:34 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
- Federati Networks
I’m still looking for a low priced annual payment VPS provider that has a somewhat lower risk (of closure, hardware failure, etc) than most LEB hosts, so I can launch temporary testing instances (for example, the upgrade of GS to the #ActivityPub enabled 2.0 branch, and looking at how well #Zap, #Pleroma, #Friendica instances fit into the !FNetworks roadmap).

I’m also considering adding a Federati #Pump.io instance, but I need to talk with the Pump.io project about SSO options. Since they use Node.JS, I’d want it on a completely separate VPS, with some restrictions to prevent incidents. Also, if utilization is too low, that would likely close.

Currently, everything is still coming out of my pocket.

In conversation Monday, 10-May-2021 23:00:34 UTC from Shoyu permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 29-Jan-2021 20:43:41 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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- Douglas A. Whitfield
@musicman My understanding is that some came to the #ActivityPub side of the #Fediverse, but most went to #Gab, #Minds, and similarly #corpocentric platforms.

In conversation Friday, 29-Jan-2021 20:43:41 UTC from mustard permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 16-Jan-2021 18:28:49 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

"The post"{https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@Elizafox/105562613778968936} seemed to be a lot of fear-mongering, even more than the article itself.

(1) #Twitter has millions of users. There is no #ActivityPub nor #OStatus implementation in which an instance hosted on a $5/mo #DigitalOcean / #Linode / #Vultr #VPS could handle the volume of a seamless connection with #Twitter. If they adopted AP OStatus, #Diaspora, or any other current open federation protocol, instances that didn't use firewall blocking would topple once the two userbases had sufficient interconnections (within a few hours or a few days after they started federating).

(2) Twitter's business model is to push ads disguised as tweets. If their users could escape those and still interact with all the same contacts, they would. I'm certain that Twitter's management know this. They also turn all links into tracking links, and sell access to media (images, video, audio) uploads of important news events to news organizations.

(3) Most Fediverse instances are financed out of the admin's pocket. Some have financial contributors, but nothing like Twitter's revenue. As the largest and best-financed instance, they would immediately have to start implementing modifications to make AP or other existing federation protocols useful to them, and those modifications would (as Mastodon's currently do) become unofficially mandatory in order to be compatible.

(4) This isn't the first time that Twitter has considered federation, though this may be the first time they openly discussed it. Back when Identica was still a happening place (during Twitter's fail-whale days), Twitter considered federating. They didn't do it then, and I honestly do not believe they will do it now.

(5) I'd say that Twitter's #BlueSky initiative is more meant to try to get bidirectional connections across #Facebook's moat and wall than it is to surround Twitter with a cloud of #Fediverse instances.
In conversation Saturday, 16-Jan-2021 18:28:49 UTC from web permalink
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1. JBOD Shadow Legends (@Elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me)
  
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  https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/15/twitters-vision-of-decentralization-could-also-be-the-far-rights-internet-endgame/ So Basically Twitter is trying to push 45 and Q through the backdoor Amazing. I hate it. I hope people don't fall for this nonsense and federate with Twitter. Trust not their gifts nor admit their horse, etc.
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 18-Dec-2020 21:20:44 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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- LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
Now discussing changes needed to switch to #ActivityPub instead of their #Pump.io protocol (an ancestor of AP).

In conversation Friday, 18-Dec-2020 21:20:44 UTC from web permalink
LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Sep-2020 05:30:44 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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- LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
He's talking about things that decentralized networks (and the people and software projects involved in them) can do to be better (more attractive to users) than #corpocentric networks. Naturally, he's focused on the #ActivityPub subset of the #Fediverse, but some of this applies to other decentralized networks as well.

In conversation Tuesday, 29-Sep-2020 05:30:44 UTC from web permalink
Tobias (tobias@social.diekershoff.de)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Sep-2020 13:31:03 UTC Tobias
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♲ @AlexVoss@fosstodon.org: Student of mine is conducting a survey on the barriers to uptake of alternative social media platforms. Your input would be much appreciated. Please boost.

standrews.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe…

#fediverse #pleroma #gnusocial #diaspora #mastodon #activitypub #ostatus #pubsub #xmpp #mstdn
#indieweb #friendica #peertube #hubzilla #socialhome #pixelfed 
#fedilab #nextcloud

In conversation Tuesday, 15-Sep-2020 13:31:03 UTC from social.diekershoff.de permalink

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