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Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2017 17:34:05 UTC 
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
!dlang community starting to discuss prevention measures https://is.gd/dWtS5R in light of !python's PyPI modifications https://is.gd/OZaA8Z -
tekk (tekk)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 06:20:34 UTC 
tekk
tbh rust totally verifies me waiting so long to pick up go despite me having an interest in it. I waited almost 10 years after go was released and I love it. Rust is a language where I've poked my head in every few months since the alphas and gone "nope, not for my use case" every time. - awg likes this.
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tekk (tekk)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 06:45:53 UTC
tekk
Back when I used it in the 1.x days there were 2 competing compilers, 1 proprietary (dmd) and 1 not iffily supported but free (gdc). There were also 2 standard libraries: phobos (came with the lang) or tango (much better). Apparently phobos has gotten better and DMD got relicensed under the boost license. -
tekk (tekk)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 06:48:26 UTC
tekk
By competing compilers I did mean competing compilers, not like go or (presumably) D now: I recall running into libraries which were specifically dmd only or gdc only, plus gdc tended to lag behind in the specs. It wasn't a good time but I could see the potential. -
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 12:20:53 UTC
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
@tekk @awg Adding to !dlang group
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It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 02:21:06 UTC 
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
> I read Sean Leffler's article on Rust's type system being turing complete and that's when I lost my weekends for the next few months.
> Rust compile time mandelbrot
http://www.treblig.org/daveG/rust-mand.html-
Gaben Newell (1iceloops123)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 03:26:06 UTC 
Gaben Newell
@clacke 75g of ram thats lots better fund a server -
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 06:10:05 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
@awg Sent this to a friend who complained that his two equivalent implementations in !dlang and Rust took 0.1 s and 7.5 s respectively to compile. He likes to run the real compile and unit tests through flycheck, because when you're using D you can actually do that. awg likes this. -
tekk (tekk)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 06:18:22 UTC
tekk
@clacke *adds "the type system is turing complete" to his list of reasons for disliking rust* It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! likes this.
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It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 02:00:11 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
Possible in !dlang :
static assert(!__traits(compiles,{ ... }))
Assert that { ... } does not compile. In this case, that a scope is enforced properly.
https://github.com/nordlow/phobos-next/blob/cc4b53d5eec601ee39a691de05bc1478db1aa02f/src/soa.d#L216 -
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2017 04:59:48 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
There's a new and improved CTFE coming to D, with performance optimizations: "At 5 times the speed. While using 40% the memory."
https://forum.dlang.org/post/btozyjtvogxgfejiwunr@forum.dlang.org
Compile Time Function Evaluation. That's pretty meta. Does it compile the compile-time runtime, so that there is a compile-time compile-time? Can you run CTFE there? :-D
If you're less lazy than me, the answer is probably here:
https://tour.dlang.org/tour/en/gems/compile-time-function-evaluation-ctfe
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Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2017 02:20:32 UTC
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
Does #Rust have a gcc implementation the way that !DLang (gdc) and #Go (gcc-go) do? Or are rusticrucians not interested in creating one? -
Craig Maloney fanfic ☕ (craigmaloney)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2017 02:27:09 UTC 
Craig Maloney fanfic ☕
@lnxw48a1 I have yet to see one. I'd love to see one.
Also is the gcc-go implementation even current? Seems like it's always trailing.
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tekk (tekk)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2017 02:28:33 UTC
tekk
@lnxw48a1 It does not, and I'm not aware of any plan to add one. The main reason for those implementations were to either have a free software version (gdc) or to be able to leverage the optimization and stuff (gcc-go) as far as I know. Considering how llvm is just as good at outputting as gcc and it's way easier to work with, there's not much reason to create one. -
Ivan Sagalaev (isagalaev)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2017 08:37:44 UTC 
Ivan Sagalaev
@tekk @lnxw48a1 there are discussions about implementing #Rust on top of Cretonne (another experimental bytecode backend): https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/possible-alternative-compiler-backend-cretonne/4275
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It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2017 22:36:55 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
> DCompute is a framework and compiler extension to support writing native kernels for OpenCL and CUDA in D to utilise GPUs and other accelerators for computationally intensive code.
Very cool.
https://dlang.org/blog/2017/07/17/dcompute-gpgpu-with-native-d-for-opencl-and-cuda/
HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14788664
Lobsters: https://lobste.rs/s/h9it5r/dcompute_gpgpu_with_native_d_for_opencl
Reddit: https://social.heldscal.la/url/630396
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https://forum.dlang.org/post/wtkazqkcovugowghnxol@forum.dlang.org
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It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2017 00:58:20 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
> Matrix bundles a networking stack to reduce latency, boost throughput and convey file system semantics more efficiently through proprietary drivers integrated into the Linux kernel
If that CTO has any idea what he's talking about, that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
But then again, this company seems very buzzword- and PR-compatible, and to some of these people "proprietary" is just a synonym for "really cool".
https://social.heldscal.la/url/628377-
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2017 01:42:22 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
@lnxw48a1 !dlang
> The kind of thing that we're doing, with `static if`s, [ . . . ] with our very efficient packing, with our very efficient choosing of algorithms, are basically only available in D, and they actually allow us to get better performance in D than you could get in C or C++, because you have no way of expressing these higher-level concepts [while] getting closer to the CPU, so ... our data structures pack themselves in cache lines. How is it for you to write a generic data structure that is always well-packed in a cache line? And then when you traverse it, it packs faster? In you wanted to do it in C, it would probably take at least about ten times the amount of code that we do it, and you would have to do it each time, for each of these implementations.
https://youtu.be/es6U7WAlKpQ?t=2h5m6sLinux Walt (@lnxw48a1) likes this. -
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2017 01:50:44 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
That's Liran, the CTO, talking about the details of how they use D, so although he speaks Marketing fluently, he does seem to be a CTO with a real T in there, alternatively he is very good at listening to his technical people. -
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2017 02:10:39 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
> He sports a shaved head and a pair of eyebrows that just won’t quit.
Basically Liran looks like Gru in "Despicable Me". :-D
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Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jul-2017 20:49:49 UTC
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
It would be great if someone wrote a similar series about !dlang. Write an OS in #Rust. https://os.phil-opp.com/ - 歩くおちんちんbot likes this.
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augustus pugin (augustus)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 16:03:40 UTC 
augustus pugin
>HashMap<Integer, Set<Character>> pad;
this pisses me of because i think i'm thinking about stuff from a C perspective where type stuff has to be rigid, so <> isn't the type it's like, what, a pretend type? it's the ole classic primitive integer set type of course- It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! repeated this.
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augustus pugin (augustus)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 17:35:27 UTC
augustus pugin
@clacke >interface as the type
i was not ready for this. i'm gonna just forget you said this until i know more.
if an interface is a type do you pass in one of that interfaces implementationsIt is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! repeated this. -
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 17:54:01 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
@augustus Exactly. -
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France! (clacke)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 17:55:10 UTC
It is we, Queen Maria de Medici of France!
@lnxw48a1 There is a !dlang group! Thank you.
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Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Saturday, 04-Mar-2017 23:57:23 UTC
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
Concept document that described much of what became !DLang's ranges http://www.informit.com/articles/printerfriendly/1407357 (partly based on !CPlusPlus's STL iterators and partly on #Lisp's S-lists) -
Kaito moved to ajin.la (cphuntington97)'s status on Saturday, 04-Mar-2017 18:42:19 UTC 
Kaito moved to ajin.la
@Triplefox gdc?
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Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2017 01:49:23 UTC
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
I think I may have posted this link to !DLang GUI libraries, but posting again just in case. https://wiki.dlang.org/GUI_Libraries -
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 19:50:05 UTC
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
"D allows writing large code fragments without redundantly specifying types, like dynamic languages do. On the other hand, static inference deduces types and other code properties, giving the best of both the static and the dynamic worlds.
Automatic memory management makes for safe, simple, and robust code. D also supports scoped resource management (aka the RAII idiom) and scope statements for deterministic transactional code that is easy to write and read."
Why !DLang http://dlang.org/-
VegOs ✔♋ (vegos)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 20:58:03 UTC 
VegOs ✔♋
I searched the pages a bit, but how are GUIs built with D? -
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) (lnxw48a1)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2017 21:28:03 UTC
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)
@vegos I think !DLang mostly relies on connecting to standard GUI toolkits like Gtk+ and Tk. https://wiki.dlang.org/GUI_Libraries
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