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  1. Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 11:06:12 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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    I got .docx all over the place. :-/ What a nightmare.
    In conversation Friday, 28-Apr-2017 11:06:12 UTC from gnusocial.no permalink
    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 11:27:36 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @tobias good #tzag to you too. It's not over yet though :-D
      In conversation Friday, 28-Apr-2017 11:27:36 UTC permalink
    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 12:09:45 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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      Yuck! Sounds like my office.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 12:10:41 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @lnxw48a1 we are now experiencing some issues with what I sent back to MS Office. Some "recorded changes" aren't displayed properly, I am told.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 12:11:36 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
      @lnxw48a1 I am working on a co-translated manuscript. I should try and get my friend install LibreOffice
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    • nds (nds@dent.smithfam.info)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 14:00:57 UTC nds nds
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      if changes *really* matter, go plain text and git. :-)
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 14:08:37 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @nds changes matter when it is a collaborative thing. But I am the only person who's willing to work in plain text.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 14:43:14 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @chalkahlom that is the only way to survive the .docx invasion c[_]
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    • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2017 16:35:35 UTC அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
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      There's a version of LibreOffice version for Windows too. And, it's aligned with the Windows user's intuition of the SETUP.EXE installation procedure. So, it should not be too hard to switch.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2017 06:56:53 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @prashere @arunisaac that's exactly the problem. It is difficult to convince people to switch, specially when you are in the middle of some work where your primary concern is your content, not the tools. ...
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    • محمد معاذ امتیاز (moaz786@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2017 01:42:29 UTC محمد معاذ امتیاز محمد معاذ امتیاز
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      @lohang @arunisaac @prashere my sister used to be the most pro-LibreOffice yet anti-free software person in my fam. then she turned anti-LO
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2017 02:57:02 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @moaz786 I am not particularly pro-LibreOffice. I prefer doing my writing in !orgmode . But LibreOffice is the best I can do when collaborating with those who don't like plain text.
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    • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2017 04:44:11 UTC அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
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      How did that happen? What were her reasons for supporting libreoffice but not free software?
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    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2017 05:03:54 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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      • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
      @arunisaac Possibly the price (zero: #FAIB).
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    • محمد معاذ امتیاز (moaz786@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2017 10:17:42 UTC محمد معاذ امتیاز محمد معاذ امتیاز
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      @arunisaac I honestly have no idea why she liked LibreOffice, but I think she was only against free software in order to spite me. :-P
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    • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2017 18:10:23 UTC அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
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      > in order to spite me.
      lol!
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    • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2017 18:13:52 UTC அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
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      @nds Plain text and markdown is ok. But, I don't know if git is suitable and easy enough for a writer. Even for a programmer, git can be a little difficult. Are there any writer-friendly version control systems?
      @lohang You are a writer, right? What do you think?
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Tuesday, 02-May-2017 11:42:52 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
      @arunisaac @nds I haven't looked into this. I am able to use #git - looking at various notes and guides I have saved - but I haven't been able to use it for anything serious because my collaborators don't have time to learn it. Besides, if we are to use it for a project like this, we have to host it somewhere and this costs lot of money. Cannot put what we write out in the open on github.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Tuesday, 02-May-2017 11:51:25 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
      @arunisaac @nds just found this interesting article:
      #Git and Version Control for Novelists, Screenwriters, Academics, and the General Public
      : http://boffosocko.com/2014/09/17/revision-control/
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      1. Git and Version Control for Novelists, Screenwriters, Academics, and the General Public
        By Chris Aldrich from Chris Aldrich
        Revision (or version) control is used in tracking changes in computer programs, but it can easily be used for tracking changes in almost any type of writing from novels, short stories, screenplays, legal contracts, or any type of textual documentation.
    • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Tuesday, 02-May-2017 18:14:53 UTC அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
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      I maintain my blog, and other writing projects in git repos. And, most of the time, I can't think of meaningful commit messages. I don't know, maybe, writing needs a different kind of version control system.
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    • محمد معاذ امتیاز (moaz786@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 00:04:23 UTC محمد معاذ امتیاز محمد معاذ امتیاز
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      @lohang I mean my sister uses M$ Office now... think we can all agree that LibreOffice would still have been better?
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 01:09:22 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
      @arunisaac yes, something user friendly and affordable.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 01:16:25 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
      @arunisaac do you run your own git server?
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    • Prasanna Venkadesh (prashere@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 05:13:46 UTC Prasanna Venkadesh Prasanna Venkadesh
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      @lnxw48a1 @arunisaac it's not going to work here in #India since pirated versions of paid software are very common.

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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 05:42:22 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @prashere @arunisaac @nds yes, we *can* use it to a certain extent. But how to incorporate all these aspects?: This is a book, co-translated by two people, edited by another. Documents have to be distributed and redistributed among each other and edited. If we are using a wiki, we have to work online, on the wiki all the time, or work offline for a while, copy-paste and publish one version while the others edit/improve online. Sometimes there seem to be three versions of the same text. How to manage this?
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 05:43:52 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @prashere @arunisaac @nds LibreOffice seems to be the most sensible solution to me. #Git is capable of handling all these aspects of the process, but too complicated and expensive to implement.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 05:44:43 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @moaz786 I agree. I am starting to discover more #LibreOffice features that I have never been aware of!
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 06:01:36 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @prashere @arunisaac @nds having three versions of the same text is an unnecessary complication we have created. We should make it two, and add some common sense, combine it with LibreOffice :-D
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    • Prasanna Venkadesh (prashere@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 06:12:41 UTC Prasanna Venkadesh Prasanna Venkadesh
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      • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)

      @lohang @nds @arunisaac resolving conflicts in synchronization has always been a challenge for distributed designs.

      Recently I came across few design principles like
      1. Offline first
      2. noBackend
      3. unHosted.

      I wrote a blog post on the same http://blog.purambokku.me/offline-first-coops-map.html

      A similar note taking free software application called Laverna (laverna.cc) which takes offline first approach. Not sure about collaboration.

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    • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 11:29:58 UTC அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
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      Yes, I pretty much self host everything. I run cgit (https://git.systemreboot.net/). But, I haven't collaborated much with my git repos.

      You don't really need a git web frontend to collaborate. You can mail patches made with `git format-patch'. But, for writing, I guess that would be clumsy. But, more generally, I think everything in git is clumsy for writing.

      There is GNU RCS. Apparently, it's a very simple VCS. I haven't tried it, but maybe it would be better than git for writing.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 12:46:02 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
      @arunisaac I just checked GNU RCS docs. It claims to be "useful for files that are revised frequently, e.g. programs, documentation, graphics, and papers."

      Sadly, that too doesn't seem to have a graphical user interface.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 12:52:45 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @arunisaac I think a revision control system would be an extremely useful addition to any office suite.
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    • nds (nds@dent.smithfam.info)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 13:03:17 UTC nds nds
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      @lohang while I now agree that git is not the technology for you, I'll note that git doesn't have to be run on a paid instance with a fancy webui. It can work anywhere with a posix file system and ssh
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    • அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) (arunisaac@social.systemreboot.net)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2017 18:49:35 UTC அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac) அருண் ஐசக் (Arun Isaac)
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      Flashbake seems interesting... Apparently, Cory Doctorow uses it. https://lifehacker.com/5232049/flashbake-automates-version-control-for-nerdy-writers
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      1. Flashbake Automates Version Control for (Nerdy) Writers
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        Save snapshots of frequently-updated files over time with programmer-strength version control—but without the learning curve. Free software Flashbake captures working files and adds details like the weather and your Twitter status to each version automatically.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2017 01:22:24 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @arunisaac aha! That looks very interesting indeed! I am going to give it a try sometime soon. This conversation prompted me to read more about git and version control too. Thanks for all the helpful pointers.
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    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2017 01:54:20 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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      If #git isn't the right version-control system for your work, there are others that may or may not fit your needs. Look at #hg (mercurial), #bzr (bazaar), #fossil, #darcs, or #svn (subversion). I know svn has a gui tool available for Windows. Not sure what kind of gui tools the others may offer.
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    • Mitchell (stitchxd@gnusocial.me)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2017 01:55:42 UTC Mitchell Mitchell
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      @lnxw48a1 @lohang Git offers many GUI based tools for Windows as well. I use an Open source version for windows projects.
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    • tekk (tekk@social.tekk.in)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2017 02:02:50 UTC tekk tekk
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      @lnxw48a1 Isn't #bzr dead? I remember there being much to do on the emacs mailing list about how bazaar was as good as dead and there's no reason to be forcing it as the emacs version control just because it's a GNU project. Like, it getting to the point of RMS having to email the developer every few months to remind him to work on important bugs.
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      I think Ubuntu & Launchpad use bzr
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      @tekk to continue with tradeoffs, you need to bear in mind when considering #darcs that their merge algorithm will occasionally bump into exponential (that is, 2^n) cases. Projects often dismiss it based on performance because of it.
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      ♻ @lnxw48a1: I think Ubuntu & Launchpad use bzr
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      Seems like ubuntu does still use bazaar, and the latest release was last year.
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      But he's already said git does not meet his needs. I'm just trying to give him alternatives. Hopefully, something simpler.
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      @lnxw48a1 @tekk I kinda like mercurial, it's pretty easy to use compared to git.
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      • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
      Mercurial is my favorite.
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    • Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus (lohang@gnusocial.no)'s status on Friday, 05-May-2017 02:12:49 UTC Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus Lohan G on GNUSocial/ostatus
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      @lnxw48a1 Thanks! I'm slowly going through the alternatives you suggested. On one hand I have this ongoing project which involves Windows/MS Word users. They are very unlikely to learn something like #git and command line even if it can be used without it being hosted somewhere online.

      On the other hand I would like to have some version control system that I can run locally to manage what I write and translate. Not necessarily collaborative work.
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