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I hope that this nasty #Cryptocurrency mining #Javascript trend at least serves to educate more people on why #NoScript is important.
- LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} and Hallå Kitteh like this.
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@skoll3 well-pointed. I should try it among some other !privacy add-ons for firefox someday
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All that will come of this is that more people will think they are earning bitcoins.
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@kzimmermann Opera 50 will have a blocker against miners. Problem we have is enabling an even worse alternative for revenue.
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@thatbrickster that's an interesting idea, wonder if it'll work well. And you're right. We can't underestimate how evil #advertisers can get
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@zoowar sounds like a 2010s' version of the "CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE THE 1000000TH VISITOR" pop-ups.
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@kzimmermann Except JS mining alternatives like CoinHive/Monero were created for other people and isn't advertising anything explicitly.
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Or the Nigerian version where you send real money to unlock your bitcoins.
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@thatbrickster @kzimmermann Then people who voluntarily run JS miners can unblock the particular script / domain necessary.
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@lnxw48a1 @kzimmermann I'm aware although this doesn't prove the 'evil advertiser' narrative in this case. Regardless, the point I was trying to make was blocking ads helped cause JS miners to spread in the first place.
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@thatbrickster @lnxw48a1 yup, and one could say that "not paying to surf" was what started the whole ad/tracking business in the web
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@nepgear yup. Get the full content with our premium web pack, only $39,99 and unlimited surfing! #ripnetneutrality
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@thatbrickster @kzimmermann Maybe, but ad-supported services have a long history. Juno's "free" ad-supported e-mail service debuted sometime in the 1990s with the slogan "e-mail is supposed to be free" By 1997, AOL's explosive growth had started. #AOL had ads everywhere. When I would go to close down the program, there would be several windows behind other windows (within the application's main window), most of which were ads or DMs from someone wanting to sell something or recruit MLM downlines.
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@lnxw48a1 @kzimmermann Again, I'm aware the revenue model exists (I remember using Opera 6 and, ugh, Skype) and of the underhanded ways they're delivered. The ways you mentioned are not applicable in this sense as this was about JS miners which are less of a nuisance and more of an immorality if the user doesn't know about them.
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@thatbrickster Directly relevant to the not paying to surf comment.
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@lnxw48a1 Fair enough. Hard enough staying awake on this train but it's my fault for missing that.
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@lnxw48a1 @thatbrickster damn, that invasive pop-up era... we were young and naive back then. #nostalgia
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@timleary @skoll3 in what ways is #uMatrix better? I agree that the new NoScript UI sucks but otherwise can't see how could it improve
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@kzimmermann For one thing, with the new #NoScript, it isn't clear to me how to _temporarily_ accept #JavaScript from a site, nor how to revoke those temporary permissions. I haven't used #uMatrix yet, but I'll be willing to take a look.
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@lnxw48a1 true that. What I heard is that uMatrix also prevents the domain serving the script from connecting, but I never tried it.
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@timleary @skoll3 so it's more or less like a firewall for your browser? That sounds pretty neat. Like browsing was supposed to be done