I get Arch's whole minimalist thing, I really do. But not even providing man-db in Base? C'mon people. That's just absurd.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 04:45:31 UTC Jim - LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} likes this.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 04:47:51 UTC Jim I found this out because I wanted to read the nmcli documentation. I couldn't connect to my wifi to download Man-db because I couldn't read the fucking manpage that tells you how to do it.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 04:48:38 UTC Jim So because of the absolute state of the decision makers at Arch, I had to go into a liveusb environment to do it.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 04:50:13 UTC Jim All this reminds me why I grew out of minimalist distros.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:18:00 UTC Jim @nytpu I'm glad it's not just me. I'm helping someone whom I recommended it to and I'm having 2nd thoughts. A lot of this is just silly.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:18:37 UTC Jim @nytpu In fairness the docs do say you may need other packages, but no manpages? No dhcp client? GIve me a fucking break.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:19:22 UTC Jim @nytpu Correction manpages are there but no tool to read them lmao
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:22:49 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu Yeah, I get that, but it's actually a bit of a gotcha. At least Gentoo cover this sort of thing in their docs.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:23:52 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu They do provide container images where that would be appropriate.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:30:28 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu They used to be very thorough in their docs but the install guide has got very loose.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:31:54 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu It switched from a comprehensive guide to a slimmed down skeletal tree, preferring to hand off to the relevant wki sections. This is logical, but those pages are not always written with learning in mind.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:34:45 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu I'm willing to accept I am not as patient as I used to be, but the BSDs and Slackware have spoilt me a little bit.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 05:59:59 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu Nope. You can check the depends for man-db. Only a small number of packages pull it down.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 06:00:49 UTC Jim -
Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 06:01:33 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu When you go for a full caffeine DE that seems remiss to me.
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Jim (sullybiker@sully.site)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Feb-2021 07:16:25 UTC Jim @clacke @nytpu I think it's a mistake. The localised man pages require it, but not the English language ones. That seems broken to me.
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