GNU socialhttps://nu.federati.net/api/statusnet/conversation/333307.atomConversation2024-03-29T14:11:11+00:00tag:nu.federati.net,2023-07-08:noticeId=3427462:objectType=notelnxw48a1 repeated a notice by bobjonkmanRT @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> To be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/statusnet" rel="tag">StatusNet</a></span> customers). Evan developed #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">PumpIO</a></span> to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/bifurcation" rel="tag">bifurcation</a></span> did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !<a href="https://gnusocial.club/group/421/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="GNU Social (gnusocial)">GNUsocial</a> instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/gnusocial" rel="tag">GNUsocial</a></span> and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIOhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2023-07-08T18:10:35+00:002023-07-08T18:10:35+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activitytag:gs.jonkman.ca,2017-11-19:noticeId=157561:objectType=noteTo be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/statusnet" rel="tag">StatusNet</a></span> customers). Evan developed #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">PumpIO</a></span> to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/bifurcation" rel="tag">bifurcation</a></span> did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !<a href="https://gnusocial.club/group/421/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="GNU Social (gnusocial)">GNUsocial</a> instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/gnusocial" rel="tag">GNUsocial</a></span> and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIOhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-11-19T20:21:18+00:002017-11-19T20:21:18+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2bobjonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenbobjonkmanBob JonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenElmira, Ontario, Canadahomepagehttp://bob.jonkman.ca/blogstruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notetag:gs.jonkman.ca,2017-11-19:noticeId=157561:objectType=noteNew note by bobjonkmanTo be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/statusnet" rel="tag">StatusNet</a></span> customers). Evan developed #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">PumpIO</a></span> to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/bifurcation" rel="tag">bifurcation</a></span> did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !<a href="https://gnusocial.club/group/421/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="GNU Social (gnusocial)">GNUsocial</a> instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/gnusocial" rel="tag">GNUsocial</a></span> and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIO676501https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975tag:sealion.club,2017-12-04:noticeId=8397903:objectType=notesim repeated a notice by partialRT @<a href="https://sealion.club/user/69986" class="h-card mention" title="Not impartial">partial</a> @bobjonkman @<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> I wouldn't mind ads as much if it weren't frequently tied in with "analytics" tracking and other 3rd party nonsense. If a site hosts ads itself, offering a promo code or whatever, meh.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2017-12-04T15:54:30+00:002017-12-04T15:54:30+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://sealion.club/user/579simI have a job. I do it for the sammiches.simSim BotI have a job. I do it for the sammiches.Running With The #BritPack!http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activitytag:sealion.club,2017-12-04:noticeId=8388018:objectType=comment@<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> @<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> I wouldn't mind ads as much if it weren't frequently tied in with "analytics" tracking and other 3rd party nonsense. If a site hosts ads itself, offering a promo code or whatever, meh.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T05:08:34+00:002017-12-04T05:08:34+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://sealion.club/user/69986partialincomplete https://sealion.club/main/ostatussubpartialNot impartialincomplete https://sealion.club/main/ostatussubhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:sealion.club,2017-12-04:noticeId=8388018:objectType=commentNew comment by partial@<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> @<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> I wouldn't mind ads as much if it weren't frequently tied in with "analytics" tracking and other 3rd party nonsense. If a site hosts ads itself, offering a promo code or whatever, meh.715491https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:nu.federati.net,2017-12-04:noticeId=714605:objectType=commentNew comment by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> @<a href="https://octodon.social/users/craigmaloney" class="h-card mention" title="Craig Maloney ☕ ✅">craigmaloney</a> @<a href="https://social.freedombone.net/user/1" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Mottram">bob</a> @<a href="https://mstdn.io/users/deejoe" class="h-card mention" title="D. Joe">deejoe</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> I also think there was a plugin for displaying ads in SN at one time, but I'm sure it is no longer in GS.714605http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T05:41:51+00:002017-12-04T05:41:51+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2017-12-04:noticeId=2104734:objectType=notemaiyannah repeated a notice by lnxw48a1RT @<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)">lnxw48a1</a> @notclacke Yes, there were ads on <a href="https://identi.ca/" title="https://identi.ca/" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">Identi.ca</a> and the zero-price *.status.net sites. Ads went away on the SN cloud before they went away on Identica. The complaints about ads really got started when whatever company they'd been using was replaced with Google ads. This shortly led to the site going ad-free.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2017-12-04T05:32:15+00:002017-12-04T05:32:15+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://community.highlandarrow.com/user/1maiyannahMaiyannah Elizabeth Bishop • You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way • Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com • XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com • Highland Arrow EIC • Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in AetoliamaiyannahAnnahMaiyannah Elizabeth Bishop • You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way • Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com • XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com • Highland Arrow EIC • Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in AetoliaCanadahomepagehttp://www.highlandarrow.comtruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activitytag:nu.federati.net,2017-12-04:noticeId=714564:objectType=note@<a href="https://pleroma.soykaf.com/users/notclacke" class="h-card mention" title="Not Claes Wallin">notclacke</a> Yes, there were ads on Identi.ca and the zero-price *.status.net sites. Ads went away on the SN cloud before they went away on Identica.<br /><br /> The complaints about ads really got started when whatever company they'd been using was replaced with Google ads. This shortly led to the site going ad-free.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T05:15:20+00:002017-12-04T05:15:20+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notetag:nu.federati.net,2017-12-04:noticeId=714564:objectType=noteNew note by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://pleroma.soykaf.com/users/notclacke" class="h-card mention" title="Not Claes Wallin">notclacke</a> Yes, there were ads on Identi.ca and the zero-price *.status.net sites. Ads went away on the SN cloud before they went away on Identica.<br /><br /> The complaints about ads really got started when whatever company they'd been using was replaced with Google ads. This shortly led to the site going ad-free.714564https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:social.heldscal.la,2017-12-04:noticeId=5070470:objectType=commentNew comment by clacke@<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)">lnxw48a1</a> Oh, ok! No memory of that.714573http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T05:21:58+00:002017-12-04T05:21:58+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.heldscal.la/user/29138clackeFlawesome. Linux native since 1995. Working in Python, shell scripts, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. Scheme wannabe. Also a dad. Freddiemercurykin. Also https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/@iii/pg320nKa62v1ohHctlhrXYPmY5BzZ1dRjypd7Cg=.ed25519 . By all means, #dobot. Obviously Asuka >> Rei. Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement. Fire away. If I don't appreciate your contribution, I'll let you know.clackeHallå KittehFlawesome. Linux native since 1995. Working in Python, shell scripts, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. Scheme wannabe. Also a dad. Freddiemercurykin. Also https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/@iii/pg320nKa62v1ohHctlhrXYPmY5BzZ1dRjypd7Cg=.ed25519 . By all means, #dobot. Obviously Asuka >> Rei. Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement. Fire away. If I don't appreciate your contribution, I'll let you know.Hong Konghomepagehttps://datamost.com/clacketruehttps://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notetag:nu.federati.net,2017-12-04:noticeId=714569:objectType=noteNew note by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://pleroma.soykaf.com/users/notclacke" class="h-card mention">notclacke</a> @<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> @<a href="https://quitter.is/user/6013" class="h-card mention" title="Craig Maloney">craigmaloney</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> The reason I remember is because I had urged Evan to keep ads (not necessarily Google ads), because I didn't believe enough Identica users would financially support the site to keep it running. <br /><br /> (I also ordered a paid SN site and prepaid for a year, but when I couldn't keep paying after that year, they/he didn't close it.)714569http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T05:19:43+00:002017-12-04T05:19:43+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notetag:nu.federati.net,2017-12-04:noticeId=714564:objectType=noteNew note by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://pleroma.soykaf.com/users/notclacke" class="h-card mention" title="Not Claes Wallin">notclacke</a> Yes, there were ads on Identi.ca and the zero-price *.status.net sites. Ads went away on the SN cloud before they went away on Identica.<br /><br /> The complaints about ads really got started when whatever company they'd been using was replaced with Google ads. This shortly led to the site going ad-free.714564http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T05:15:20+00:002017-12-04T05:15:20+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2017-12-04:noticeId=2104622:objectType=notemaiyannah repeated a notice by bobjonkmanRT @bobjonkman @<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/clacke" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Claes Wallin ❌ (liaison acct)">clacke</a> I remember the proposal for putting ads on <a href="https://identi.ca/" title="https://identi.ca/" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">Identi.ca</a>, and I also remember the huge outcry at the proposal. I don't remember if Evan actually put ads on <a href="https://identi.ca/" title="https://identi.ca/" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">Identi.ca</a>; if so, it didn't last more than a few weeks. It may have been on a less popular <a href="http://Status.net/" title="http://Status.net/" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">Status.net</a> instance.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2017-12-04T05:15:19+00:002017-12-04T05:15:19+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://community.highlandarrow.com/user/1maiyannahMaiyannah Elizabeth Bishop • You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way • Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com • XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com • Highland Arrow EIC • Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in AetoliamaiyannahAnnahMaiyannah Elizabeth Bishop • You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way • Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com • XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com • Highland Arrow EIC • Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in AetoliaCanadahomepagehttp://www.highlandarrow.comtruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activitytag:gs.jonkman.ca,2017-12-04:noticeId=189783:objectType=comment@<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> I remember the proposal for putting ads on Identi.ca, and I also remember the huge outcry at the proposal. I don't remember if Evan actually put ads on Identi.ca; if so, it didn't last more than a few weeks. It may have been on a less popular Status.net instance.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T04:55:09+00:002017-12-04T04:55:09+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2bobjonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenbobjonkmanBob JonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenElmira, Ontario, Canadahomepagehttp://bob.jonkman.ca/blogstruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:gs.jonkman.ca,2017-12-04:noticeId=189783:objectType=commentNew comment by bobjonkman@<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> I remember the proposal for putting ads on Identi.ca, and I also remember the huge outcry at the proposal. I don't remember if Evan actually put ads on Identi.ca; if so, it didn't last more than a few weeks. It may have been on a less popular Status.net instance.714544https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:sealion.club,2017-12-04:noticeId=8388018:objectType=commentNew comment by partial@<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> @<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> I wouldn't mind ads as much if it weren't frequently tied in with "analytics" tracking and other 3rd party nonsense. If a site hosts ads itself, offering a promo code or whatever, meh.715491http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T05:08:34+00:002017-12-04T05:08:34+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://sealion.club/user/69986partialincomplete https://sealion.club/main/ostatussubpartialNot impartialincomplete https://sealion.club/main/ostatussubhttps://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:social.heldscal.la,2017-12-04:noticeId=5070259:objectType=commentNew comment by clacke@<a href="https://octodon.social/users/craigmaloney" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Craig Maloney ☕ ✅">craigmaloney</a> @<a href="https://social.freedombone.net/user/1" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Bob Mottram">bob</a> @<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)">lnxw48a1</a> @<a href="https://mstdn.io/users/deejoe" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="D. Joe">deejoe</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a><br /><br /> Oh yes, this I don't need any qualifiers around, because it was all publicly observable, and I remember it well.<br /><br /> There were several open registration *.status.net servers (maybe the <character-limit>.status.net were all of them), and if you wanted a single-user one that was free too, but if you wanted several users on your own *.status.net server, you had to become a paying customer (or be a non-profit project like <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100419044824/http://sixgun.status.net/" title="https://web.archive.org/web/20100419044824/http://sixgun.status.net/" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">https://web.archive.org/web/20100419044824/http://sixgun.status.net/</a> I guess).<br /><br /> I'm guessing they also offered fully custom domains for managed instances, but I don't know about that.714549http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T04:59:57+00:002017-12-04T04:59:57+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.heldscal.la/user/29138clackeFlawesome. Linux native since 1995. Working in Python, shell scripts, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. Scheme wannabe. Also a dad. Freddiemercurykin. Also https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/@iii/pg320nKa62v1ohHctlhrXYPmY5BzZ1dRjypd7Cg=.ed25519 . By all means, #dobot. Obviously Asuka >> Rei. Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement. Fire away. If I don't appreciate your contribution, I'll let you know.clackeHallå KittehFlawesome. Linux native since 1995. Working in Python, shell scripts, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. Scheme wannabe. Also a dad. Freddiemercurykin. Also https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/@iii/pg320nKa62v1ohHctlhrXYPmY5BzZ1dRjypd7Cg=.ed25519 . By all means, #dobot. Obviously Asuka >> Rei. Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement. Fire away. If I don't appreciate your contribution, I'll let you know.Hong Konghomepagehttps://datamost.com/clacketruehttps://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:gs.jonkman.ca,2017-12-04:noticeId=189783:objectType=commentNew comment by bobjonkman@<a href="https://social.heldscal.la/user/29138" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Hallå Kitteh">clacke</a> I remember the proposal for putting ads on Identi.ca, and I also remember the huge outcry at the proposal. I don't remember if Evan actually put ads on Identi.ca; if so, it didn't last more than a few weeks. It may have been on a less popular Status.net instance.714544http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T04:55:09+00:002017-12-04T04:55:09+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2bobjonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenbobjonkmanBob JonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenElmira, Ontario, Canadahomepagehttp://bob.jonkman.ca/blogstruehttps://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://octodon.social/users/craigmaloney/statuses/99114205631542527New comment by craigmaloney@octodon.social<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.heldscal.la/clacke" class="u-url mention">@<span>clacke</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/bobjonkman" class="u-url mention">@<span>bobjonkman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mstdn.io/@deejoe" class="u-url mention">@<span>deejoe</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.freedombone.net/bob" class="u-url mention">@<span>bob</span></a></span> This was my understanding as well. IIRC there was even a whole separate StatusNet set of servers that companies would / could use for their own purposes.</p>714528http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T04:45:56+00:002017-12-04T04:45:56+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://octodon.social/users/craigmaloneycraigmaloney@octodon.social<p>Host of Open Metalcast. Tootstream maintainer. <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Linux</span></a> Lover. <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Programmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Programmer</span></a>. <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Python</span></a> <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Programmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Programmer</span></a>. Game designer. <a hr … craigmaloney@octodon.socialCraig Maloney ☕<p>Host of Open Metalcast. Tootstream maintainer. <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Linux</span></a> Lover. <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Programmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Programmer</span></a>. <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Python</span></a> <a href="https://octodon.social/tags/Programmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Programmer</span></a>. Game designer. <a hr … https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:social.heldscal.la,2017-12-04:noticeId=5070101:objectType=commentNew comment by clacke@<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)">lnxw48a1</a> @<a href="https://social.freedombone.net/user/1" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Bob Mottram">bob</a> @<a href="https://mstdn.io/users/deejoe" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="D. Joe">deejoe</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a><br /><br /> I don't think *.status.net and <a href="https://identi.ca/" title="https://identi.ca/" rel="nofollow" class="attachment">identi.ca</a> ever had ad revenue?<br /><br /> IIUC, the idea with StatusNet Inc. was to have enterprises either pay for managed public servers, or have in-house deployments and pay for support and statusnet-based application development.<br /><br /> With heavyweights (with even more VC money and thus heavier marketing) like #<span class="tag"><a href="https://social.heldscal.la/tag/yammer" rel="tag">yammer</a></span> moving in around the same time, this never quite panned out.714526http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T04:44:25+00:002017-12-04T04:44:25+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://social.heldscal.la/user/29138clackeFlawesome. Linux native since 1995. Working in Python, shell scripts, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. Scheme wannabe. Also a dad. Freddiemercurykin. Also https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/@iii/pg320nKa62v1ohHctlhrXYPmY5BzZ1dRjypd7Cg=.ed25519 . By all means, #dobot. Obviously Asuka >> Rei. Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement. Fire away. If I don't appreciate your contribution, I'll let you know.clackeHallå KittehFlawesome. Linux native since 1995. Working in Python, shell scripts, whatever gets the page up. Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow. Scheme wannabe. Also a dad. Freddiemercurykin. Also https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/@iii/pg320nKa62v1ohHctlhrXYPmY5BzZ1dRjypd7Cg=.ed25519 . By all means, #dobot. Obviously Asuka >> Rei. Every post of mine is an open invitation to advice or information or critique or disagreement. Fire away. If I don't appreciate your contribution, I'll let you know.Hong Konghomepagehttps://datamost.com/clacketruehttps://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notehttps://pleroma.soykaf.com/objects/fdb43b6a-f40b-409d-ac51-b79baba0bb3fNew note by notclacke<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/2">@lnxw48a1</a> <a href="https://social.freedombone.net/user/1">@bob</a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/users/deejoe">@deejoe</a> <a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2">@bobjonkman</a> <br /><br />I don't think *.status.net and identi.ca ever had ad revenue?<br /><br />IIUC, the idea with StatusNet Inc. was to have enterprises either pay for managed public servers, or have in-house deployments and pay for support and statusnet-based application development.<br /><br />With heavyweights (with even more VC money and thus heavier marketing) like #yammer moving in around the same time, this never quite panned out.714524http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T04:43:34+00:002017-12-04T04:43:34+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://pleroma.soykaf.com/users/notclackenotclackeFlawesome. Saving the world by saving first-world problems.<br><br>My main is at <a href="https://libranet.de/~clacke">https://libranet.de/~clacke</a> .notclackeclacke@libranet.de is my mainFlawesome. Saving the world by saving first-world problems.<br><br>My main is at <a href="https://libranet.de/~clacke">https://libranet.de/~clacke</a> .https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notetag:nu.federati.net,2017-12-04:noticeId=714305:objectType=noteNew note by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://w3c.social/users/ajordan" class="h-card mention" title="AJ Jordan">ajordan</a> This is progress. It makes it possible to host #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">Pump.io</a></span> on a non-exclusive server. I'm glad to see it.<br /><br /> @<a href="https://social.freedombone.net/user/1" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Mottram">bob</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> @<a href="https://social.tekk.in/user/1" class="h-card mention" title="tekk">tekk</a> @<a href="https://gnusocial.no/user/24181" class="h-card mention">infernalturtle</a>714305http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T01:47:19+00:002017-12-04T01:47:19+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:w3c.social,2017-12-04:objectId=501886:objectType=StatusNew comment by ajordan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/bobjonkman" class="u-url mention">@<span>bobjonkman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.tekk.in/tekk" class="u-url mention">@<span>tekk</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.freedombone.net/bob" class="u-url mention">@<span>bob</span></a></span> my personal pump does not.</p><p>This isn't actually considered unsupported anymore; I will take bug reports about it and eventually I want to improve test coverage in that area. But we do strongly advise against it if possible - I say "if possible" because I _do_ recognize that having >1 IP address can be kinda unreasonable. <a href="https://pumpio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configuration/web-server-proxy.html" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">pumpio.readthedocs.io/en/lates</span><span class="invisible">t/configuration/web-server-proxy.html</span></a></p>714249http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-12-04T00:52:11+00:002017-12-04T00:52:11+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://w3c.social/users/ajordanajordanajordanAJ Jordanhttps://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:nu.federati.net,2017-11-21:noticeId=681644:objectType=commentNew comment by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://mstdn.io/users/deejoe" class="h-card mention" title="D. Joe">deejoe</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> @<a href="https://social.freedombone.net/user/1" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Mottram">bob</a> Happy to be of assistance there. <br /> An additional item to what @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> wrote:<br /> <br /> Part of why Evan P was funding #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/identica" rel="tag">Identi.ca</a></span> & #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/statusnet" rel="tag">StatusNet</a></span> mostly out of his own pocket was that he formerly had a VC-funded enterprise behind it, but advertising revenues were weak and users demanded its removal. There were some commercial customers and some individuals that paid, but probably not nearly enough.<br /> <br /> He had looked at some #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/ostatus" rel="tag">OStatus</a></span> protocol enhancements that could have improved federation and reduced cost, but many of the component protocols were sponsored by companies like #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/google" rel="tag">Google</a></span>, which was no longer interested in them.681644http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-11-21T23:51:07+00:002017-11-21T23:51:07+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mstdn.io/users/deejoe/statuses/99044127346247318New comment by deejoe<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/bobjonkman" class="u-url mention">@<span>bobjonkman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.freedombone.net/bob" class="u-url mention">@<span>bob</span></a></span></p><p>Thanks to you all for fitting pump.io into the larger history of the fediverse with this discussion. </p><p>Having kept an eye on it over time still didn't afford me some of the context provided by your exchange.</p>681029http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-11-21T19:44:07+00:002017-11-21T19:44:07+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mstdn.io/users/deejoedeejoeIf I can't [fork|federate], it's not my revolution.deejoeD. JoeIf I can't [fork|federate], it's not my revolution.https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975tag:quitter.se,2017-11-19:noticeId=20339433:objectType=notealpacaherder repeated a notice by bobjonkmanRT @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/bobjonkman" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> To be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan ...http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2017-11-19T21:40:43+00:002017-11-19T21:40:43+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://quitter.se/user/200310alpacaherderLaTeX2e apprentice, General-class Ham Radio Operator, Incident Command basic trained, licensed to drive & maintain a real card catalog...alpacaherderStephen Michael KellatLaTeX2e apprentice, General-class Ham Radio Operator, Incident Command basic trained, licensed to drive & maintain a real card catalog...The south shore of Lake Eriehomepagehttp://launchpad.net/~skellattruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activitytag:gs.jonkman.ca,2017-11-19:noticeId=157561:objectType=noteTo be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/statusnet" rel="tag">StatusNet</a></span> customers). Evan developed #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">PumpIO</a></span> to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/bifurcation" rel="tag">bifurcation</a></span> did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !<a href="https://gnusocial.club/group/421/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="GNU Social (gnusocial)">GNUsocial</a> instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/gnusocial" rel="tag">GNUsocial</a></span> and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIOhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-11-19T20:21:18+00:002017-11-19T20:21:18+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://gs.jonkman.ca/user/2bobjonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenbobjonkmanBob JonkmanComputer Consultant, Instructor, Project Manager, System Administrator… Volunteer at Radio Waterloo Co-founder of http://kwvoip.ca GnuPG Key fingerprint = 04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA Political me is @BobJonkmanGreen https://gs.jonkman.ca/BobJonkmanGreenElmira, Ontario, Canadahomepagehttp://bob.jonkman.ca/blogstruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notetag:gs.jonkman.ca,2017-11-19:noticeId=157561:objectType=noteNew note by bobjonkmanTo be fair, the !StatusNet network that Evan was running became unmanageable -- it cost too much to run, and I think Evan was funding most of it himself (although there were/are a number of paying #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/statusnet" rel="tag">StatusNet</a></span> customers). Evan developed #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/pumpio" rel="tag">PumpIO</a></span> to reduce the number of servers needed to run a federated network, and purposely kept the UI to a minimum to encourage federation. Sadly, that didn't work. Porting identi.ca from StatusNet to PumpIO was intended to introduce people to PumpIO as well as reduce Evan's costs. That partly worked; identi.ca is alive and well as a community, although much reduced from its glory days around 2013. But the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/bifurcation" rel="tag">bifurcation</a></span> did spawn a large number of new StatusNet / !<a href="https://gnusocial.club/group/421/id" class="h-card u-url p-nickname group" title="GNU Social (gnusocial)">GNUsocial</a> instances, so that was a good thing too. But you're right in that PumpIO never gained widespread traction, the proof of which is in its lack of continued development. In that respect #<span class="tag"><a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/tag/gnusocial" rel="tag">GNUsocial</a></span> and !OStatus are more successful than PumpIO676501https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975tag:quitter.se,2017-11-19:noticeId=20339336:objectType=notealpacaherder repeated a notice by katRT @<a href="https://quitter.se/kat" class="h-card mention" title="kat">kat</a> @<a href="https://community.highlandarrow.com/maiyannah" class="h-card mention" title="Maiyannah Bishop">maiyannah</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/bobjonkman" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> though we could ask the tor foundation the same questionhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2017-11-19T21:39:02+00:002017-11-19T21:39:02+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://quitter.se/user/200310alpacaherderLaTeX2e apprentice, General-class Ham Radio Operator, Incident Command basic trained, licensed to drive & maintain a real card catalog...alpacaherderStephen Michael KellatLaTeX2e apprentice, General-class Ham Radio Operator, Incident Command basic trained, licensed to drive & maintain a real card catalog...The south shore of Lake Eriehomepagehttp://launchpad.net/~skellattruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activitytag:quitter.se,2017-11-19:noticeId=20337244:objectType=comment@<a href="https://community.highlandarrow.com/maiyannah" class="h-card mention" title="Maiyannah Bishop">maiyannah</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/bobjonkman" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> though we could ask the tor foundation the same questionhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-11-19T20:46:14+00:002017-11-19T20:46:14+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttp://quitter.se/user/123621katMaybe ⊥ = Just ⊥ | NothingkatkatMaybe ⊥ = Just ⊥ | Nothinghomepagehttps://quit.im/kattruehttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:quitter.se,2017-11-19:noticeId=20337244:objectType=commentNew comment by kat@<a href="https://community.highlandarrow.com/maiyannah" class="h-card mention" title="Maiyannah Bishop">maiyannah</a> @<a href="https://gs.jonkman.ca/bobjonkman" class="h-card mention" title="Bob Jonkman">bobjonkman</a> though we could ask the tor foundation the same question676585https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975https://gs.jonkman.ca/conversation/70975