GNU socialhttps://nu.federati.net/api/statusnet/conversation/285727.atomConversation2024-03-29T13:57:19+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-11:noticeId=591525:objectType=commentNew comment by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/natecull" class="h-card mention" title="Nate Cull">natecull</a> @<a href="https://imaginair.es/users/pnathan" class="h-card mention" title="pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️">pnathan</a> I haven't run across Elijah List, and I've spent the last couple of years in Missouri and Louisiana. In fact, I drove through the HQ city of the Assemblies of God today. I don't really do media (Christian, secular, or whatever), so I can't answer that aspect, but none of the churches I've visited or attended in either state seemed to be havens of Trump love.591525http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T23:04:45+00:002017-10-11T23:04:45+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}tag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:quitter.no,2017-10-11:noticeId=5065172:objectType=commentNew comment by rls89zx@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/natecull" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Nate Cull">natecull</a> i think evangelicals are tyrants. i dont believe their lies either, period. they are the most anti-freedom pro-tytanny scum ever.590032http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T09:12:35+00:002017-10-11T09:12:35+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://quitter.no/user/14188rls89zxI'm Aloysius (actually Robert Smith), I ♥ videogames, Movies, anime&manga, RPGs, FLOSS, Copyleft, Libre, DIY, Cats, ALT-Currency, & Anarchyrls89zxAloysiusI'm Aloysius (actually Robert Smith), I ♥ videogames, Movies, anime&manga, RPGs, FLOSS, Copyleft, Libre, DIY, Cats, ALT-Currency, & AnarchySomewhere b/t Cyber-Space & the Woodshomepagehttp://whirlfang.wordpress.com/truetag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:quitter.no,2017-10-11:noticeId=5065088:objectType=commentNew comment by rls89zx@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/natecull" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Nate Cull">natecull</a> i am anti-evangelical, anti-elitist, period.590027http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T08:57:17+00:002017-10-11T08:57:17+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://quitter.no/user/14188rls89zxI'm Aloysius (actually Robert Smith), I ♥ videogames, Movies, anime&manga, RPGs, FLOSS, Copyleft, Libre, DIY, Cats, ALT-Currency, & Anarchyrls89zxAloysiusI'm Aloysius (actually Robert Smith), I ♥ videogames, Movies, anime&manga, RPGs, FLOSS, Copyleft, Libre, DIY, Cats, ALT-Currency, & AnarchySomewhere b/t Cyber-Space & the Woodshomepagehttp://whirlfang.wordpress.com/truetag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98809121007613100New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> ah man, I've heard of it, when I talk about it with christian friends, it's sort of like "did you hear what those nutters SAID" kind of thing.</p><p>The wackos are out there, no denying it. I really don't see them as *normative* though. </p><p>I don't see the wackos in church. maybe they are there? but I see more hipsterism, more "old man yelling at cloud"ism, more anti-abortion-ism, and more authoritarianism.</p>589953http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T07:38:55+00:002017-10-11T07:38:55+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00btag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21217863New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> so maybe this crowd isn't nearly as influential among US Evangelicals as I have the impression from my brother that they are - it would go a long way toward putting my mind at ease if that were the case.</p>589939http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T07:26:25+00:002017-10-11T07:26:25+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21217761New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> I guess you've never met The Elijah List folks, then?</p><p><a href="http://www.elijahlist.com/words/index.html" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">http://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">elijahlist.com/words/index.htm</span><span class="invisible">l</span></a></p><p>(A good thing, on the whole; this website is absolutely terrible! So many horrible ads. But my brother keeps talking about it. I don't think he really got that from NZ; but he knows people like, eg, Cindy Jacobs.)</p>589935http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T07:24:40+00:002017-10-11T07:24:40+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98809059075381809New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> Pedantically: reformed isn't a denomination, its a family of denominations, all very conservative calvinist. See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Presbyterian_Church_of_North_America" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed</span><span class="invisible">_Presbyterian_Church_of_North_America</span></a> for an example. </p><p>I have a certain fondness for the Reformed world myself, they believe in seriously thinking about their beliefs far more than any other crew *I've* met in the "bible-believing" wing of the Christian faith. (Also tend to suffer from snobbery, but that's predestination for you).</p><p>wow it's time to go to bed, i can barely type</p>589932http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T07:23:10+00:002017-10-11T07:23:10+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00btag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21217266New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> </p><p>Yeah, other than AOG and Baptists the other denominations you mention literally don't exist in New Zealand:</p><p>* Foursquare, Calvary Chapel and Nazarene don't exist<br />* Reformed isn't a denomination here <br />* Our main Evangelical-Pentecostal-Charismatic flavours are Baptists, Elim, AoG, Vineyard, and local NZ ones</p><p>But we have a lot of overlap with US via bookstores, conferences, US-based TV </p><p>It's that media I see, more than the churches.</p><p>*Someone* bought all those Left Behinds.</p>589927http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T07:16:47+00:002017-10-11T07:16:47+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98808950097585397New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> The thing I want to bang a bit more on is that I am getting the impression the NZ crew you're familiar with are more homogeneous than the USA Pentecostals. There are big differences between church and church in the US, even ones under the same denomination or "evangelical" umbrella. So, yes, some people got really into End Times stuff, other people got really into Anti-Communism, other people got into Anti-Abortion, and they got passionate and prolific (because that's what Christians culturally do when wound up: write and write and write), and they present a *stream* of thoughts.</p><p>But those thoughts do not per se represent someone in the pew, although they may influence them. </p><p>What I think is a valid criticism is that Pentecostals aren't very well educated, and usually prefer "real experience with God", however expressed, to someone actually having education. There's real discomfort with demanding someone spend some time learning before they do teaching.</p>589884http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T06:55:27+00:002017-10-11T06:55:27+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00btag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98808853567965975New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> I haven't heard end times bs since growing up in the 90s. No one talks about it in any church setting I can recall since 2002 or so. And I've dabbled in ag, Foursquare, and Nazarene offshoots, along with visiting a fair number of others. I keep away from the really flaky types tho'. </p><p>Admittedly, my indoc is a little unusual. I was raised strict antinomian/anarchisty Charismatic, with a decently strong orthodox Anabaptist influence. We were never church members; we'd drop in and out of places, depending on the local control of the preacher. My folks are old Jesus People house church types and bailed out to be pure antinomians when the Sheparding movement hit. A lot of Latter Rain influence. All that said, doctrinally we've always been roughly Charismatic AG modulo the mysticism and ecclesiology.</p>589852http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T06:30:54+00:002017-10-11T06:30:54+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00btag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98808827752151340New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> AG is pentecostal. US Evangelicals include Baptists(100% not pentecostal), some Reformed, Calvary Chapel, and most "non denominational" churches.</p>589834http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T06:24:20+00:002017-10-11T06:24:20+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00btag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98808809152126781New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> Ah. You're missing the /key/ nuance.</p><p>Abortion.</p><p>It has been a dogma since 1977 that America Must Ban Abortion. This is part of why Catholics and Evangelicals have politically paired. They would hold their nose and vote for dang near anyone who would overturn Roe v Wade. That is the KEY reason I heard from most evangelicals as to why they went Trump (besides the Hillary being evil meme that's been around since the 90s).</p>589821http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T06:19:36+00:002017-10-11T06:19:36+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00btag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21212913New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> I mean, the US and NZ AOG scenes may be very different, and the 1990s to 2010s also different.... but I thought I remembered hearing Mike 'The Satan Seller' Warnke talk at an AOG church in NZ in 1990. (The year before he got uncovered as a fraud). </p><p>Warnke's a classic example of the 'Evangelical conspiracy theory' genre that I see as a direct precursor and enabler for the 'Pizzagate' and 'Spirit Cooking' memes of 2016.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Warnke" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_War</span><span class="invisible">nke</span></a></p>589804http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T06:02:37+00:002017-10-11T06:02:37+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenttag:gs.smuglo.li,2017-10-11:noticeId=4427934:objectType=commentNew comment by ayy@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/natecull" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Nate Cull">natecull</a> @<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/2" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)">lnxw48a1</a> @<a href="https://imaginair.es/users/pnathan" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️">pnathan</a> My guess: The whole west (=Canada, EU, NZ, idk about AUS) except US.589791http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T05:57:55+00:002017-10-11T05:57:55+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://gs.smuglo.li/user/50763ayyxmpp: elfwave on cock.li (fp 9CD09037 8E4CD1C9 022653F8 8DDCB96A 5372DB7B) Alts: ayy@fzp (same content), @ayy@niu.moe (very different)ayyayxmpp: elfwave on cock.li (fp 9CD09037 8E4CD1C9 022653F8 8DDCB96A 5372DB7B) Alts: ayy@fzp (same content), @ayy@niu.moe (very different)tag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21212140New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> I admit I pretty much checked out of the Evangelical scene (and Christian bookstores in New Zealand) since 2006, though we did have a left-ish one that closed after 2010. (It carred a lot of Emerging Church, ie left-Baptist, books).</p><p>But my brother is very much in that scene and so many of his Texas Evangelical-Pentecostal friends (eg: Iris Ministries), are hyper-Trump.</p><p>Wen I say 'Evangelical' I mean 'Pentecostal'; but I thought they'd joined? AOG is Pentecostal, isn't it?</p>589790http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T05:52:10+00:002017-10-11T05:52:10+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21211296New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> By 'Evangelical conspiracy theories', I particularly mean 'antichrist and end-times prophecy'.</p><p>In the 1980s this was pro-Israel, anti-Communist, and anti-Europe. It moved heavily into attacking the EU and UN in the 1990s.</p><p>I would be surprised if you've been in the US Evangelical church scene and been able to avoid any exposure to this material? It's, like, a good 50% of books in Christian bookstores?</p>589783http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T05:39:16+00:002017-10-11T05:39:16+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21211123New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> And that's why I'm interested right now in Evangelical conspiracy theories - because that sector of Evangelical beliefs overlap significantly with the fascist-adjacent hard right that preceded the alt-right, and those links have been there since the 1970s.</p><p>Eg: I am seeing a meme conveyor belt from Lyndon LaRouche to Cardinal Ratzinger via Constance Cumbey.</p><p>Was that planned? I doubt it. But birds of a feather flocked together, and sadly, Evangelicals have flocked with fascists</p>589775http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T05:36:13+00:002017-10-11T05:36:13+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.social/users/natecull/statuses/21210985New comment by natecull<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://imaginair.es/@pnathan" class="u-url mention">@<span>pnathan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> Yes, the alt-right are a powerful faction and aren't Evangelical.</p><p>Certainly white US evangelicals are only a minority of the whole population now (17%, according to this article - and 81% of them went for Trump).</p><p>But they're a key and very influential minority, because they command a very powerful domestic and international media apparatus.</p><p>It's the 'why did 81% of them go Trump at all' that bothers me.</p><p>I read this as 'Evangelicals going alt-right'.</p><p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/09/06/fading-white-evangelicals-made-desperate-end-of-life-bargain-with-trump-robert-jones-column/635115001/" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">usatoday.com/story/opinion/201</span><span class="invisible">7/09/06/fading-white-evangelicals-made-desperate-end-of-life-bargain-with-trump-robert-jones-column/635115001/</span></a></p>589773http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T05:33:52+00:002017-10-11T05:33:52+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.social/users/natecullnateculland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playlistsnatecullNate Culland we're all gonna shine a light togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/user/natecullnz/playliststag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8tag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-11:noticeId=589516:objectType=notelnxw48a1 repeated a notice by pnathanRT @<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/pnathan" class="h-card mention" title="⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️">pnathan</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/natecull" class="h-card mention" title="Nate Cull">natecull</a> @<a href="https://nu.federati.net/user/2" class="h-card mention" title="Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1)">lnxw48a1</a> A lot of that data comes from polls, which skew *hard* towards elderly people with landlines.My ***very*** strong sense is that Reddit's /r/The_Donald and similar forma are a significant cadre of the Trump voters. People under 30, very media-savvy, ***very** atheist. They don't show up on traditional polling mechanisms.http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2017-10-11T01:35:25+00:002017-10-11T01:35:25+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activityhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98807476850180873<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> A lot of that data comes from polls, which skew *hard* towards elderly people with landlines.</p><p>My ***very*** strong sense is that Reddit's /r/The_Donald and similar forma are a significant cadre of the Trump voters. People under 30, very media-savvy, ***very** atheist. They don't show up on traditional polling mechanisms.</p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T00:40:47+00:002017-10-11T00:40:47+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98807476850180873New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> A lot of that data comes from polls, which skew *hard* towards elderly people with landlines.</p><p>My ***very*** strong sense is that Reddit's /r/The_Donald and similar forma are a significant cadre of the Trump voters. People under 30, very media-savvy, ***very** atheist. They don't show up on traditional polling mechanisms.</p>589456tag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8tag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathan/statuses/98807476850180873New comment by pnathan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@natecull" class="u-url mention">@<span>natecull</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/lnxw48a1" class="u-url mention">@<span>lnxw48a1</span></a></span> A lot of that data comes from polls, which skew *hard* towards elderly people with landlines.</p><p>My ***very*** strong sense is that Reddit's /r/The_Donald and similar forma are a significant cadre of the Trump voters. People under 30, very media-savvy, ***very** atheist. They don't show up on traditional polling mechanisms.</p>589456http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2017-10-11T00:40:47+00:002017-10-11T00:40:47+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://imaginair.es/users/pnathanpnathanwhen you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00bpnathan(⚗️ pnathan)when you went to sing a chorus of stars glowedthe morning shoutedbrisk air and growing thingsall luminousen native, (fr | de) n00btag:nu.federati.net,2017-10-10:objectType=thread:nonce=a53081ae1b95ced8