GNU socialhttps://nu.federati.net/api/statusnet/conversation/2476368.atomConversation2024-03-28T19:04:43+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notetag:nu.federati.net,2020-02-21:noticeId=3276641:objectType=noteNew note by lnxw48a1@<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention">strypey</a> It could be different in other countries, but in the US, newspapers were already in serious decline before the WWW burst onto the scene. In major cities across the country, the #<span class="tag"><a href="https://nu.federati.net/tag/2" rel="tag">2</a></span> paper either closed or merged backend operations with their main competitor.<br /><br /> I believe it was the early 1980s when the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner closed, leaving the Los Angeles Times as the dominant and sole regional paper for Southern California. Meanwhile, local papers in many areas went under common ownership and consolidated production with neighboring areas' papers to survive.<br /><br /> I think the death knell in SoCal was when one or two major radio stations went all news & traffic and one of the major television stations had local news from 16:30 to 19:00 Monday through Friday. Why do you need to buy & read the paper to see stories you heard about the night before over broadcast media?3276641http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2020-02-21T23:19:45+00:002020-02-21T23:19:45+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}tag:mastodon.nzoss.nz,2020-02-21:objectId=2859716:objectType=Conversationtag:nu.federati.net,2020-02-21:noticeId=3276633:objectType=notelnxw48a1 repeated a notice by strypeyRT @<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey" class="h-card u-url p-nickname mention" title="Strypey">strypey</a> "... there is a persistent, widespread view that Newmark’s humble-looking site destroyed classified advertising, one of the newspaper industry’s most valuable cash cows. Last October’s New York Times article – the one that called him a 'villain' – stated: 'Researchers eventually estimated that Craigslist had drained $5bn from American newspapers over a seven-year period. In the Bay Area, the media was especially hard hit'.”<br /> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit" title="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit" rel="nofollow external noreferrer" class="attachment thumbnail" id="attachment-263924">https://nu.federati.net/url/263924</a>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/share2020-02-21T23:01:09+00:002020-02-21T23:01:09+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://nu.federati.net/user/2lnxw48a1Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .lnxw48a1LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}Main account. A GNU+Linux bearing nomad migrating across a Windows-centric desert. I save the world from incompetent headquarters IT folks. I invite comment and discussion, but I dislike arguing .{58024A03-1021-499E-B14D-DF4537889BF8}http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/activityhttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/103699260976264858<p>"... there is a persistent, widespread view that Newmark’s humble-looking site destroyed classified advertising, one of the newspaper industry’s most valuable cash cows. Last October’s New York Times article – the one that called him a 'villain' – stated: 'Researchers eventually estimated that Craigslist had drained $5bn from American newspapers over a seven-year period. In the Bay Area, the media was especially hard hit'.”<br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theguardian.com/technology/201</span><span class="invisible">9/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit</span></a></p>http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2020-02-21T22:45:49+00:002020-02-21T22:45:49+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypeystrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #JugglingstrypeyStrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #Jugglinghttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notehttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/103699260976264858New note by strypey<p>"... there is a persistent, widespread view that Newmark’s humble-looking site destroyed classified advertising, one of the newspaper industry’s most valuable cash cows. Last October’s New York Times article – the one that called him a 'villain' – stated: 'Researchers eventually estimated that Craigslist had drained $5bn from American newspapers over a seven-year period. In the Bay Area, the media was especially hard hit'.”<br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theguardian.com/technology/201</span><span class="invisible">9/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit</span></a></p>3276623tag:mastodon.nzoss.nz,2020-02-21:objectId=2859716:objectType=Conversationtag:mastodon.nzoss.nz,2020-02-21:objectId=2859716:objectType=Conversationhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/103699297845102912New comment by strypey<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://impeccable.social/users/billstclair" class="u-url mention">@<span>billstclair</span></a></span> sure, see:<br /><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/103699293979293846" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/103</span><span class="invisible">699293979293846</span></a></p>3276627http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2020-02-21T22:55:11+00:002020-02-21T22:55:11+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypeystrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #JugglingstrypeyStrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #Jugglingtag:mastodon.nzoss.nz,2020-02-21:objectId=2859716:objectType=Conversationhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/commenthttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/103699293979293846New comment by strypey<p>Thing is, once the net and the web went mainstream, the decline of the classified ad sections funding newspaper journalism was inevitable. Even if there were no <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/craigslist" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Craigslist</span></a> etc, there would still be <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/freecycle" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Freecycle</span></a>.org and info pages listing local second hand dealers, and other net-based tools that help people exchange used stuff. In <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/aotearoa" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Aotearoa</span></a>, one of the major newspaper chains moved with the times by buying <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/trademe" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>TradeMe</span></a>, the local equivalent of <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ebay" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Ebay</span></a> or <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/amazon" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Amazon</span></a>.</p>3276626http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2020-02-21T22:54:12+00:002020-02-21T22:54:12+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypeystrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #JugglingstrypeyStrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #Jugglingtag:mastodon.nzoss.nz,2020-02-21:objectId=2859716:objectType=Conversationhttp://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/notehttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypey/statuses/103699260976264858New note by strypey<p>"... there is a persistent, widespread view that Newmark’s humble-looking site destroyed classified advertising, one of the newspaper industry’s most valuable cash cows. Last October’s New York Times article – the one that called him a 'villain' – stated: 'Researchers eventually estimated that Craigslist had drained $5bn from American newspapers over a seven-year period. In the Bay Area, the media was especially hard hit'.”<br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit" rel="nofollow"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theguardian.com/technology/201</span><span class="invisible">9/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit</span></a></p>3276623http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/post2020-02-21T22:45:49+00:002020-02-21T22:45:49+00:00http://activitystrea.ms/schema/1.0/personhttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/users/strypeystrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #JugglingstrypeyStrypeyFree human being of this Earth. Be excellent to each other! #Vegan #Permaculture #Transition #PeerProduction #FreeCode #CreativeCommons #SciFi #Comedy #Jugglingtag:mastodon.nzoss.nz,2020-02-21:objectId=2859716:objectType=Conversation